Time To Dump The Second Amendment?

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Just because I disagree with bigots and traitors like yourself doesn't mean I think everyone else is wrong. Just you two nitwit chickenshits who love to talk big and spread hate but won't leave your bunker basements.

No.

you're a totally fucked up deep state delusional asshole.

and i don't even talk big. i counsel peace, always.

and for the record, we choose the hard way.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Just because I disagree with bigots and traitors like yourself doesn't mean I think everyone else is wrong. Just you two nitwit chickenshits who love to talk big and spread hate but won't leave your bunker basements.

when your disagreement is false and/or manufactured for a predisposed position, the rest of your shit is wrong then, as well

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Spreading lies such as Jews hating all Christians or that the US government is controlled by Israel is you being hateful, bigoted and either insane or a liar. I'm still trying to figure out if you are insane or a liar.

i didn't say any of that.

Im saying there are some problematic theocratic teachings within judaism.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Ooooh! Now all the problems in the US are my fault. I must be very powerful.

Sorry, son, you give me far too much credit.

not really. you did it out of stupidity.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

when your disagreement is false and/or manufactured for a predisposed position, the rest of your shit is wrong then, as well

say it plain, he's a dumb globalist deep state dickhole. a traitor to humanity.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

NO.

the answer is cleaning house.

not "educating the public" you elitist deep state fuckhole.

How do you plan to clean house from your basement, Fredo?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

No.

you're a totally fucked up deep state delusional asshole.

and i don't even talk big. i counsel peace, always.

and for the record, we choose the hard way.

when your disagreement is false and/or manufactured for a predisposed position, the rest of your shit is wrong then, as well

You two should get together more often so you can massage each other with hand lotion and bitch about me.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

you created this monster you dumb fuck.

not really. you did it out of stupidity.

I'd still have to be all powerful in order to do it, Fredo.

When you finally snap, how many people do you think you'll murder? Will STY or some other keyboard warrior convince you to wear a vest?

$50 says someone rolls on you before you get the chance. If you blow yourself up anyway, I'll give the money to your favorite charity. Which charity do you prefer?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

You two should get together more often so you can massage each other with hand lotion and bitch about me.

we're connected at the no fucks given.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

I'd still have to be all powerful in order to do it, Fredo.

When you finally snap, how many people do you think you'll murder? Will STY or some other keyboard warrior convince you to wear a vest?

$50 says someone rolls on you before you get the chance. If you blow yourself up anyway, I'll give the money to your favorite charity. Which charity do you prefer?

I really mean your ilk, of course, you are mostly ineffectual, as you have stated.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

we're connected at the no fucks given.

Ahh, the human centipede. Got it. Thanks.

So does that mean you'll never do anything violent? That you're just all talk, no walk? All hat, no cattle? You're just pretentious little fucks who blather on about killing Jews, African-Americans and Libruls to make America white again but have no intention of risking yourselves in such an endeavor?

Are you simply hoping to incite a nutjob like Payton Gendron to do your dirty work?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I really mean your ilk, of course, you are mostly ineffectual, as you have stated.

What's my "ilk", Fredo? Retired Naval Officers who are still Marines loyal to our Constitution? Retired airline pilots who spend most of the day either working around the yard, chastising fucking morons on the Internet or watching Netflix?

BTW, do you and STY honestly believe your Internet communications are secure? Do you think using "code words" really works?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Ahh, the human centipede. Got it. Thanks.

So does that mean you'll never do anything violent? That you're just all talk, no walk? All hat, no cattle? You're just pretentious little fucks who blather on about killing Jews, African-Americans and Libruls to make America white again but have no intention of risking yourselves in such an endeavor?

Are you simply hoping to incite a nutjob like Payton Gendron to do your dirty work?

i have never blathered on about killing anyone.

when will you stop lying? ever?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

What's my "ilk", Fredo? Retired Naval Officers who are still Marines loyal to our Constitution? Retired airline pilots who spend most of the day either working around the yard, chastising fucking morons on the Internet or watching Netflix?

BTW, do you and STY honestly believe your Internet communications are secure? Do you think using "code words" really works?

globalist fuckhammers.

What code words am i using? Im curious.

 

[Truth Detector]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Now, a lot of people think the purpose of the 2nd is so that the government will fear the people who are armed and capable of revolt.

They think it is sort of a check and balance to prevent the government from getting too powerful, that if the people are armed and might decide to take up arms against the government if the government gets out of hand, that government will be limited.

And that would be totally wrong. That is not the purpose of the 2nd at all.

The purpose of the 2nd was to defend the USA.

America was very fearful of a standing army that the government could use against the people (because that is exactly what Britain did.) The reasoning was that America would have no standing army. The Constitution says so:

Article I, Section 8, Clause 12:

"[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; ..."

The 2nd amendment would allow people to be armed so that if the country needed to raise an army for defense it could quickly do so. That's why it says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

There is nothing about armed people standing up to government. It is about the security of the nation, the free State.

We live in a different world than when this was written. We definitely need a standing army. We figured that out in WWII. That means the 2nd Amendment is obsolete. There is no well-regulated militia ensuring the security of the Free State. Our military powers do that.

It is time to replace the second with a more modern establishment of gun ownership. And yes, we do need to infringe on the right to own a gun. Because too many people are getting killed.

What the language of a new amendment might be, I don't know. But I wonder if it is so popular with the public that something be done about the mass shootings, and Congress is not acting, that a well worded amendment abolishing the 2nd and replacing it with something more appropriate might pass in enough States to ratify it?

No. It's time to dump the Democratic Party of Lying Jackasses.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

i have never blathered on about killing anyone.

when will you stop lying? ever?

You just advocate hate and hope someone else does the dirty work, Fredo. There's a word for people like you: Bigmouthed chickenshit.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

You just advocate hate and hope someone else does the dirty work, Fredo. There's a word for people like you: Bigmouthed chickenshit.

I have said nothing hateful and always counsel peace.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I have said nothing hateful and always counsel peace.

Disagreed but everyone who reads your posts can decide for themselves. Examples:

It's not even close to a zero sum game. The truth is jews hate white christians, and they simultaneously convince us to destroy our own nations, while dying to institute their Jewish Supremacist homeland. They're laughing they're asses off.

A plan for jewish world theocracy.
Also see noahide

so niggers can take the day off from pretending they can read.

niggers on bottom.

 

[Flash]

4% loss is 4% loss. Again, a rising tide not "Fuck you, I've got mine". You seem to be favoring a zero-sum game about wealth instead of win-win scenarios.

That 4% is a failure of our national leadership.

A 4% loss is not necessarily a loss. They may have gained $10,000 in income but others gained more. They may have left for a job that paid less because they thought they would be happier. More for one does not mean less for others.

You are assuming a zero sum. If my income increases 10% to $110,000 and yours increases 10% to $55,000, we are both better off although my income increased twice as much as yours. I took nothing away from you and you are better off. However, if others increased more than 10% that may have dropped you out of the middle class.

The median family income in 2021 was $67,463 compared to $58,620 in 2015.


It is not the job of national leadership to maintain everybody's place in the class structure.

If you look at the Treasury Dept/IRS income mobility studies you will see only 42% of those in the bottom income quintile remained there ten years later. Only 69% of those in the top income quintile remained there ten years later.

How are you fixing the "fuck you, I've got mine"? Giving away most of your income?


So, as I stated earlier, the "decline" of the middle class is because more of moving up in income. Of course, that depends on how we measure middle class. If it is the middle three quintiles then the number will always remain the same.

 

[Flash]

Hello Flash,



Thanks to government assistance programs people have moved out of poverty and into middle class. That doesn't mean propserity is being spread around equitably.

It is terrible policy to seek equality by taking money away from others or giving it to others. There are hundreds of programs/schools to train people for higher paying jobs. We can't force them to attend.