Time To Dump The Second Amendment?

[Celticguy]

I know, right?

Like, get over it gun grabbers.

they insist on looking for short cuts. change or nix the 2nd or stfu

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Just like a fucking lib who thinks the path to stopping almost all "gun violence" is by banning ARs and high capacity magazines.

Boat, tunnel and ladder technology, not to mention over 95,000 miles of fucking coastline, negate your single-line defense. Smarter people defend in depth in such situations.

feel free to come back and talk if you ever have a legitimate idea....

 

[Dutch Uncle]

that shit'll work bro.

it worked for alex.

No doubt he's extremely happy with the results just like you will be.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

feel free to come back and talk if you ever have a legitimate idea....

You keep coming back and you don't have a fucking clue. Why do you think you're any different?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

No doubt he's extremely happy with the results just like you will be.

It's whatever.

probably nothing.

if you strike me down now i shall become more powerful than you can ever imagine. -- obi wan kenobi

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It's whatever.

probably nothing.

if you strike me down now i shall become more powerful than you can ever imagine. -- obi wan kenobi

Jesus fucking Christ, Fredo. Who the fuck do you think I am? I'm just a retired nobody playing on the computer, doing some gardening and catching up on five years worth of mini-series. You're the one who is spreading hate and threatening others. If you're into illegal shit, even associating with criminals or terrorists, then that'll come back to bite you.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Jesus fucking Christ, Fredo. Who the fuck do you think I am? I'm just a retired nobody playing on the computer, doing some gardening and catching up on five years worth of mini-series. You're the one who is spreading hate and threatening others. If you're into illegal shit, even associating with criminals or terrorists, then that'll come back to bite you.

once again.

your assesment is quite off, but you know that.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Just like a fucking lib who thinks the path to stopping almost all "gun violence" is by banning ARs and high capacity magazines.

Boat, tunnel and ladder technology, not to mention over 95,000 miles of fucking coastline, negate your single-line defense. Smarter people defend in depth in such situations.

border walls work all over the world.

 

[Flash]

do you think sending as much business overseas as possible chasing short term savings is a good idea even if it destroys the middle class in the long term, and leaves vital industries and supply lines in the hands of possible geopolitical enemies?

it wasnt quite as bad when we restriced trade to nations with similar civil and humans rights standards, but allowing de facto human slave labor on the international market incentives that slavery to the detriment of free people everywhere.

Many middle class Americans depend on foreign trade and exports for their livelihood. Exports of goods and services makes up 12% of the U. S. GDP up from 9% in 1990. We are second in the world for exports.

it's like a morality thing.

It is in our long-term interest. Nations with close trade ties are less likely to go to war. Those nations we have resumed regular diplomatic and trade relations changed much faster than those we have isolated. Compare China and the USSR with North Korea and Cuba.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

It is in our long-term interest. Nations with close trade ties are less likely to go to war. Those nations we have resumed regular diplomatic and trade relations changed much faster than those we have isolated. Compare China and the USSR with North Korea and Cuba.

who is the us of our?

I believe you are mistaken.

it's a race to the bottom for most people and is resulting in massive human rights abuse and complete state capture/fascism.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

 

[Flash]

who is the us of our?

I believe you are mistaken.

it's a race to the bottom for most people and is resulting in massive human rights abuse and complete state capture/fascism.

The United States.

Those nations we refuse to deal with have even worse political and economic oppression. Isolation and sanctions have not worked. It just gives the regime an excuse for poor economic performance---they blame it on U. S. policy and keeps the people poor.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

let's do this flash. where are you on busting up monopolies?

this is how you can tell if you're classical liberal or a fascist.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

once again.

your assesment is quite off, but you know that.

Are you saying your heroes in the WSE, the ones who hate Jews and African-Americans like you do, will not commit more mass murders this summer? The Summer of '24?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

border walls work all over the world.

Now I'm starting to see why you're so unhappy and hateful. Not a big thinker, eh? LOL

You're pushing middle age and you realize your shitty little cubicle and a gold watch are the best you can hope for. Is that it, Fredo?

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Now I'm starting to see why you're so unhappy and hateful. Not a big thinker, eh? LOL

You're pushing middle age and you realize your shitty little cubicle and a gold watch are the best you can hope for. Is that it, Fredo?

facts are facts, bro.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

facts are facts, bro.

Like the fact you're a bigoted anti-American MAGA sucker, Fredo?

your desperation is showing, divisive jew.

No. Actually it's that black people are aggressive monkey-like creatures who use any excuse to "Wile Out". That's what watermark told me in IM at least.

damn, you're a dumb jew.

on that note, the obvious stolen election is ample evidence to go full martial law, with mandatory free speech.

The CIA powerful supercomputer system known as the Hammer with its application Scorecard was deployed to steal the 2020 election from President Donald J. Trump as it was done earlier to help Obama and Biden.

Our beloved United States of America is now a Banana Republic. The Dominion Voter Systems with the software of the Smartmatic voting machines from Venezuela were used in 30 states and Puerto Rico to commit massive election fraud.


https://www.conservativebusinessjournal.com/2020-stolen-election-hammer-and-scorecard/

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Like the fact you're a bigoted anti-American MAGA sucker, Fredo?

guno is a dumb and divisive jew.

Im gonna have to double down on that one.

hateful hebrews for 800, alex?

this poster often gloats about whatever troubles befall white americans, who also suffer.

who is guno?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

guno is a dumb and divisive jew.

Im gonna have to double down on that one.

hateful hebrews for 800, alex?

this poster often gloats about whatever troubles befall white americans, who also suffer.

who is guno?

....annnd everyone on JPP knows how much you hate Jews, amirite? LOL

He's African-American and everyone on JPP knows you hate blacks, too, eh?

Examples:

Simply too much diversity slithering around. How do you degenerates prioritize?

niggers on bottom.

so niggers can take the day off from pretending they can read.

 

[gemini104104]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Now, a lot of people think the purpose of the 2nd is so that the government will fear the people who are armed and capable of revolt.

They think it is sort of a check and balance to prevent the government from getting too powerful, that if the people are armed and might decide to take up arms against the government if the government gets out of hand, that government will be limited.

And that would be totally wrong. That is not the purpose of the 2nd at all.

The purpose of the 2nd was to defend the USA.

America was very fearful of a standing army that the government could use against the people (because that is exactly what Britain did.) The reasoning was that America would have no standing army. The Constitution says so:

Article I, Section 8, Clause 12:

"[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years; ..."

The 2nd amendment would allow people to be armed so that if the country needed to raise an army for defense it could quickly do so. That's why it says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

There is nothing about armed people standing up to government. It is about the security of the nation, the free State.

We live in a different world than when this was written. We definitely need a standing army. We figured that out in WWII. That means the 2nd Amendment is obsolete. There is no well-regulated militia ensuring the security of the Free State. Our military powers do that.

It is time to replace the second with a more modern establishment of gun ownership. And yes, we do need to infringe on the right to own a gun. Because too many people are getting killed.

What the language of a new amendment might be, I don't know. But I wonder if it is so popular with the public that something be done about the mass shootings, and Congress is not acting, that a well worded amendment abolishing the 2nd and replacing it with something more appropriate might pass in enough States to ratify it?

Or at least amend it to ban ownership of military assault rifles among non-military persons and greater regulations in order to promote a safer society against maniacs who think they can challenge humanity's existence, and that I am sure was not the intent of how the framers created the 2nd amendment to which the NRA and repukes have corrupted its true meaning to engage in un-American atrocities for blood money making profit that also threatens the stability of democracy at proliferating military type weapons of mass destruction within society. The 2nd amendment was created to allow farmers to protect their property and citizens to protect the colonies from hostile forces, and all they had in those days were muskets. Big difference compared to the weapons of mass destruction that are prevalent now.