Transgender support isn't "woke"

leaningright said:
Reading this thread and seeing the goings on in this country as it pertains to this sort of stuff makes me understand more why the Amish live like they do. Kind of makes me want to go join them. :|
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I suggest you watch “The Sins of the Amish”
 
Phantasmal said:
I suggest you watch “The Sins of the Amish”
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20202334/reviews/
"The documentary seems to suggest that sexual abuse of children is very common in various Amish communities. Whether it is or not more common than the rest of society, the fact that leaders always want to cover it up is distressing. It is a CRIME, it should never be covered up. Maybe if every offender went to jail then it would stop."

Yes, any child abuse is a crime. It doesn't matter if it's the Pedo Nazis, Trumpers or the Amish. This is the problem of closed societies. While people should be able to live as they please, the main rule is to not harm anyone in doing so. Abusing children counts are harm.
 
Althea said:
But you're competing in a different class. At some point, there has to be a finals. Better to have men compete against men. If they want to hasten the process of becoming a woman, then gender reassignment surgery might help.
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But they are a different class....Men are never going to become women, even with reassignment surgery.... (See the reality show "I am Jazz"...)
It's not necessary to have a "final" if it's a new class... Better to have an exhibition than nothing... So Open class or compete with the men.... You'll still have times for the record...And you won't have denied a girl who worked every day for years a chance to achieve what she's worked so hard for...
 
TOP said:
But they are a different class....Men are never going to become women, even with reassignment surgery.... (See the reality show "I am Jazz"...)
It's not necessary to have a "final" if it's a new class... Better to have an exhibition than nothing... So Open class or compete with the men.... You'll still have times for the record...And you won't have denied a girl who worked every day for years a chance to achieve what she's worked so hard for...
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When the testicles are removed, testosterone production ceases. It will hasten the process of reduced muscle mass, and then it's just lung capacity that has to be addressed.
 
TOP said:
But they are a different class....Men are never going to become women, even with reassignment surgery.... (See the reality show "I am Jazz"...)
It's not necessary to have a "final" if it's a new class... Better to have an exhibition than nothing... So Open class or compete with the men.... You'll still have times for the record...And you won't have denied a girl who worked every day for years a chance to achieve what she's worked so hard for...
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You might try backing up your opinions with some actual facts now and then, bigot. And not from Breitbart or Fox, either.
 
Althea said:
When the testicles are removed, testosterone production ceases. It will hasten the process of reduced muscle mass, and then it's just lung capacity that has to be addressed.
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Men may have larger overall lung capacity than women, just due to generally being larger. But women often utilize oxygen more efficiently, by virtue of being the bearers of children and needing to breath for two while pregnant. Anecdotal example: I could hold my breath underwater for over two minutes, even though at the time I was a smoker. But my teen sons could barely manage 60 seconds.
 
I'm in awe of how people can be comfortable discussing this subject.

I very much prefer not to think about it.

Voluntary genital mutilation sounds unfathomable to me,
but at the same time, I accept that it's none of my business if it's indeed voluntary.
 
Althea said:
When the testicles are removed, testosterone production ceases. It will hasten the process of reduced muscle mass, and then it's just lung capacity that has to be addressed.
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That doesn't make a man a woman....
 
TOP said:
But they are a different class....Men are never going to become women, even with reassignment surgery.... (See the reality show "I am Jazz"...)
It's not necessary to have a "final" if it's a new class... Better to have an exhibition than nothing... So Open class or compete with the men.... You'll still have times for the record...And you won't have denied a girl who worked every day for years a chance to achieve what she's worked so hard for...
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Indeed.

A man has only one gender, male...forever.

A woman has only one gender, female forever.
 
A man who has his testicles and penis removed is still a man, sin testicles and a penis.

Why would any sane person want to mutilate themselves?
 
Earl said:
Indeed.

A man has only one gender, male...forever.

A woman has only one gender, female forever.
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That would be correct...chromosomes remain the same as they were at birth....Taking hormones or having reassignment surgery...removal or addition.... does not change the sex of the individual...
 
Earl said:
A man who has his testicles and penis removed is still a man, sin testicles and a penis.

Why would any sane person want to mutilate themselves?
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That would be their choice as an adult...but it doesn't magically transform them into the opposite sex....
 
TOP said:
That would be correct...chromosomes remain the same as they were at birth....Taking hormones or having reassignment surgery...removal or addition.... does not change the sex of the individual...
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Eternal truths that would not even have been discussed a few decades ago...during the time of reason in America.
 
Doc Dutch said:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20202334/reviews/
"The documentary seems to suggest that sexual abuse of children is very common in various Amish communities. Whether it is or not more common than the rest of society, the fact that leaders always want to cover it up is distressing. It is a CRIME, it should never be covered up. Maybe if every offender went to jail then it would stop."

Yes, any child abuse is a crime. It doesn't matter if it's the Pedo Nazis, Trumpers or the Amish. This is the problem of closed societies. While people should be able to live as they please, the main rule is to not harm anyone in doing so. Abusing children counts are harm.
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it's not even a function of closed socieies.

whats deep states excuse? the finders. the franklin scandal.

this is your lie to justify harrassing people living free of your nazi eugenics tethers.
 
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Edward R. Murrow

“We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason (sic) if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men ... We proclaim ourselves, as indeed we are, the defenders of freedom, wherever it continues to exist in the world, but we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.”
 
Earl said:
Edward R. Murrow
“We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason (sic) if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men ... We proclaim ourselves, as indeed we are, the defenders of freedom, wherever it continues to exist in the world, but we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.”
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Many conservatives are very anti-freedom on the topic of gender. Just an FYI.
 
BartenderElite said:
Many conservatives are very anti-freedom on the topic of gender. Just an FYI.
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Just for an FYI, many far left Democratic Socialist loons are very anti-freedom when males are allowed to compete against females.

Females should have the freedom to compete against females.
 
TOP said:
I care when it affects the lives of others....
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I think most people care when anything anyone does affects the lives of others.

Otherwise, personal choices like this are just that. Some on the right are obsessed w/ this one, for whatever reason.
 
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