Trump calls for Supreme Court to reconsider flag burning laws amid protests

AProudLefty said:
President Donald Trump said Monday that he'd support laws criminalizing flag burning, saying in a call with governors that it's time for the Supreme Court to take up the issue again as nationwide protests have intensified over the death of George Floyd.

Trump's comments follow nearly a week of protests across the country that at times have turned violent over the death of Floyd, a 46-year-old African American man who died at the hands of a police officer in Minneapolis. During the protests in some cities, people have vandalized buildings and looters have ransacked businesses. In Atlanta, protesters burned an American flag in front of CNN headquarters and photographers have captured images of flag burnings in Los Angeles and Washington state in recent days.

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https://www.kctv5.com/trump-calls-f...cle_e1de211c-7176-534c-aa32-8d1d61a846d6.html

I guess Trump wants to be like Kim Long Dong. :palm:

This isn't what our soldiers fought for.
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Translation,Trump wants the 1st Amendment removed from the Constitution!
Tea in the harbor,motherfucker
 
StoneByStone said:
Trump tried to cheat in his reelection. That is Fascism. It's using the office of the presidency to determine an election instead of allowing for Democracy.
Check out this link and tell me how many points do NOT apply to Trump, because it's easier to list the ones that don't: http://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html

Again, this is the False Equivalence fallacy. Obama wasn't a Socialist or a Communist. He didn't try to collectivize businesses and he didn't try to eliminate the government. So while it's fair to say Obama had bad politics, or you don't agree with his politics, it's objectively wrong to say that his politics were Socialist or Communist.
And I explained before how the Liberals who want to ban speech are fringe.
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I never suggested Obama was socialist or communist--that is crazy right-wing labeling just as calling Trump a fascist is crazy left-wing labeling (although the conversation was about Trump supporters).

Calling something a false equivalence demonstrates the moral superiority both sides believe they represent. Many Trump supporters make the same self-righteous rhetoric you are claiming for your side.
 
Nordberg said:
Criticized the press is not equivalent to Trump's they are enemies of the state. Can you understand that.? Presidents have bitched, but Trump makes it a cause. Trump is threatening freedom of the press. He has eliminated the yearly press conferences. He wants to select and remove who gets credentials based on his whims.
The left believes that elections are reasonably fair. There are investigations regularly and they find almost zero illegal votes. That is not how the right cheats. They do it by stopping likely Dem voters from exercising their right. They shorten voting days. They eliminate polls to Dem and black neighborhoods to make voting lines ridiculously long. They remove minority sounding names from the voter rolls.
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Trump's attack on the press is mostly rhetoric to appeal to his supporters. Free press means the freedom to publish whatever they choose and we see multiple anti-Trump columns daily. He can "threaten" freedom of the press but can do nothing to actually restrict it. Press conferences do not constitute press freedom and under Trump are fairly useless.

The left did not believe elections were fair in 2004 or 2016 and blamed their loss on some guy who had an interest in the voting machines in Ohio in 2004 and the Russians in 2016.

Claiming some kind of moral and ethical superiority of one party is just partisan blindness.
 
Into the Night said:
Burning a flag is not 'speech'. It is not a text, or spoken, one of two things required for it to be considered 'speech' under the Constitution of the State of Washington.
Under the U.S. Constitution, the States are currently interpreting 'speech' to include burning a flag. That may change over time, as burn a flag is stretching the concept of 'speech' quite a bit.
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If it is expressing a political viewpoint it is just as much speech as verbal expression.

The states are not interpreting speech to include burning a flag--that interpretation was handed down in a Supreme Court opinion that the states are legally bound to follow.
 
Flash said:
I never suggested Obama was socialist or communist--that is crazy right-wing labeling just as calling Trump a fascist is crazy left-wing labeling (although the conversation was about Trump supporters).

Calling something a false equivalence demonstrates the moral superiority both sides believe they represent. Many Trump supporters make the same self-righteous rhetoric you are claiming for your side.
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I know you're not saying Obama supporters are Socialist or Communist. What I'm saying is that supporting Trump actually is supporting Fascism, but supporting Obama is not supporting Socialism or Communism. That's what makes it a False Equivalence. And I included a link to show why Trump, or at the very least his policies, is Fascist.

I'm all for saying both sides are wrong when both sides actually are wrong. I'll never defend either side that fought in WWII. But when it comes to the modern American Left and Right, there is no comparison. The Left has plenty of problems, but the Right is literally Fascist.
 
Flash said:
It is no really a "move" but just rhetoric. The Supreme Court cannot reconsider this issue unless there is a case based on state or federal law making flag burning a criminal offense.
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TBH, I don't believe Trump is serious at all. I think it's yet another attempt at a distraction. But the fact that it's working, and the Right is agreeing with him, is pretty scary.
 
Does anyone think this is not just another Trump distraction? We are in a pandemic. we have people in the streets. The economy is in the shitter and Trump is talking about the flag. The Supremes already decided this case . Trump is doing the shiny object trick. It will work on 40 percent. The bell rings and they drool.
 
StoneByStone said:
TBH, I don't believe Trump is serious at all. I think it's yet another attempt at a distraction. But the fact that it's working, and the Right is agreeing with him, is pretty scary.
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tRump knows it a "trigger" issue and is willing to exploite it for all that its worth. It's the same tactic that was used with the "border wall". tRump knew that immigration was a "trigger" issue as well. Wet
 
Nordberg said:
Does anyone think this is not just another Trump distraction? We are in a pandemic. we have people in the streets. The economy is in the shitter and Trump is talking about the flag. The Supremes already decided this case . Trump is doing the shiny object trick. It will work on 40 percent. The bell rings and they drool.
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He has them "conditioned" to a level that would make Pavlov take notice.
 
StoneByStone said:
Thank you for proving my point.
You know I'm right, you just don't have the balls to admit it.
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He answered your post about deflection with yet another deflection. Given his join date, my guess he is a regular posting "trumpanzee" incognito. Probably somebody on multiple "ignore" lists.
 
Into the Night said:
Burning a flag is not 'speech'. It is not a text, or spoken, one of two things required for it to be considered 'speech' under the Constitution of the State of Washington.
Under the U.S. Constitution, the States are currently interpreting 'speech' to include burning a flag. That may change over time, as burn a flag is stretching the concept of 'speech' quite a bit.
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Apparently you do not understand what speech means.
 
Tacomaman said:
tRump knows it a "trigger" issue and is willing to exploite it for all that its worth. It's the same tactic that was used with the "border wall". tRump knew that immigration was a "trigger" issue as well. Wet
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It's so sad that as dumb as Trump is, there are still people even dumber who fall for his obvious lies.
 
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