Trump forgets who he is running against!

[IBDaMann]

So COVID is a hoax, then.

I have already answered this question. They COVID hype was entirely a hoax. COVID existed. The hype and all the generated fear and panic for the government to seize greater control was pure scam.

 

[IBDaMann]

It was Trump's program administered by his corrupt Treasury Secretary.

So explain to me how Biden totally botched this one too.

 

[IBDaMann]

How?

The DNC was already using the COVID scam to get Trump out of office with bad numbers and a low approval rating.

 

[IBDaMann]

You're in a cult.

What cult would that be?

 

[IBDaMann]

Because there's nothing to tout, so anything you say will be a lie.

Invalid. You don't get to declare unknown future statements as "lies."

 

[IBDaMann]

You're the one who put their foot in their stupid, fat mouth.

Established. You have no English reading comprehension.

 

[IBDaMann]

It's going to be a landslide like 2008. Especially after that debate performance. And JD Vance is only going to make it worse.

At least you recognize that Trump's landslide will be Reaganesque.

 

[An Orange Cat]

Nope. Leave the English grammar to me.

Yes, their can be used in the singular. You are about as much of an expert in English as you were about tariffs.

 

[An Orange Cat]

Nope. You simply weren't paying attention at the time. I was. "The debate" was what to do about monuments.

So then who are the people on the Nazis' side who aren't Nazis?

 

[An Orange Cat]

NoJust remain in your seat and I'll tell you what you need to know.

So are you going to tell me wrong things about this like you told me wrong things about how tariffs work?

 

[An Orange Cat]

Nope, I didn't say that. You are the one fabricating bogus positions to assign.

Trump said that and you have been defending it.

So who were or are the "very fine people" on the Nazis' side?

 

[An Orange Cat]

Nope.

Right, you didn't know.

You thought that China was like, writing a check and that was what paying a tariff is.

Then I had to tell you that China didn't pay anything because importers are who pays the tariffs.

Then you shifted your argument to say that it's "Chinese import companies" who are paying the tariffs, but you can't name any of these companies or show how they're owned by China.

In fact, most of the import companies in the US are privately owned by Americans or are corporations that are traded on the stock market. Like Walmart, for instance. A company that has its own import business called Walmart Direct Import. That's who is paying the tariff...an American company...who then pushes those tariff costs onto consumers. And that's why you're a fucking idiot.

You know less than nothing about this because you are a stupid person.

 

[An Orange Cat]

Nope. Until I taught you, you didn't understand how importers work, assuming that all importers are domestic companies, and not realizing that most, but not all, are foreign companies.

Second, you didn't realize that the higher prices paid by consumers for foreign goods was one of the protectionist effects of tariffs, i.e. motivate the purchase of domestic products.

Third, you didn't realize that when China "paid tariffs" that it referred to the commercial chinese companies and not the Chinese government.

Everything you are saying here is wrong.

Completely fucking wrong. This is why you lost the Trade War and why we had to waste $30B of taxpayer money. YOUR FUCKING IGNORANCE.

You thought that the country of China was paying tariffs on goods they were also somehow IMPORTING IN THE US?

Name one Chinese owned US-based importing business that does scaled business with US retailers. JUST ONE.

 

[An Orange Cat]

at was you. I very clearly specified "China" as the country/nation (to include companies) and you gave me grief because you misunderstood the entire situation.

No, it was pretty obvious that you thought China paid a tariff on everything they exported to the US.

You had to shift your argument to ambiguous Chinese importing businesses(?), of which you can't name one.

But here's the thing idiot, it doesn't matter who owns the importing companies because those companies pass their costs onto the retailers who pass those costs onto consumers. And that's why you're a fucking idiot.

In retaliation for such an aggressively stupid move, China played US soybean farmers against their own interests, despite every sane person's warning that Conservatives are fucking stupid. So that's why we had to fork out $30B. to fix another fucking mistake you idiots made because you're fucking stupid.

 

[An Orange Cat]

I very clearly specified "China" as the country/nation (to include companies)

TO INCLUDE COMPANIES! LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Tell me something, let's say for the sake of your really wrong and dumb argument that there are Chinese-owned US importers who have scaled their business, and those companies are the ones paying the tariff. Upon whom do you think those importing companies would pass their costs?

I'll just tell you because you don't know...RETAILERS.

So regardless of who owns the importing company, consumers will always end up paying the costs of tariffs in the end. ALWAYS. And that's why you're a fucking idiot.

So now comes the part where you have to show one of these companies paying the tariff while not passing the costs of those tariffs onto the retailers to whom they distribute, and then you also need to account for the fact that the retailers will pass their costs onto consumers, as is the way.

 

[An Orange Cat]

Take a "do over." Redo your post and think about it before you craft it. Decide, in advance, what point you wish to make, then base your post around that.

This sounds like the internal dialogue going on in your head.

You think that by shifting the goalposts, that saves your argument but it doesn't and here's how:

Regardless of what importing company pays the tariff, those costs will always end up on the consumer in the end.

Also, any major retailer in the US, like Walmart, Target, Amazon...they all have their own import companies. Those import companies pay the same tariff your mysterious, as-yet-to-be-named Chinese companies do here. So again, you're a fucking idiot because all imports from China have the tariff, which is then on the importer who is also the retailer in many if not most cases...so you're just adding a % tax to consumers because you're a fucking idiot who doesn't know how tariffs work and DEFINITELY doesn't know how international trade works either.

 

[An Orange Cat]

The administration of PPP was all Biden/Harris.

No it wasn't you stupid fucking idiot.

PPP was April 2020.

Who was President in April 2020? Who's Treasury Secretary handed out the checks -er, um- I mean "loans"?

 

[An Orange Cat]

re you insisting that they withheld business loans so as to optimize business failures and public dependence upon the Federal government?

Trump signed PPP into law on 4/24/20, the first loans were issued in May 2020 and they were forgiven in 2020:

Loan forgiveness was expanded from eight weeks of eligible costs to the 24 weeks or December 31, 2020, whichever is earlier; alternatively, a business whose PPP loan was made before June 5 may opt to use the eight-week period instead.

PPP was a conservative grift if all these businesses supposedly closed.

 

[An Orange Cat]

Are you insisting that Biden and Harris totally botched yet another program?

I'm insisting that you're a fucking idiot who doesn't know how linear time works.

PPP was signed into law 4/24/20...who was President 4/24/20?

The first PPP "loans" were issued 5/1/20...who was President 5/1/20?

PPP Loans were forgiven 6/5/20....who was President 6/5/20?

 

[An Orange Cat]

Established. You have no English reading comprehension.

Their has been used in the singular for longer than Conservatism has existed.