maineman
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You don't even comprehend what you own post claims.....Bush was not speaking for anyone but himself, he certainly did not say "there is no doubt in the US Intelligence community, etc, etc"...........so its irrelevant if there was one person or anyone held different beliefs, ie, that had doubts
.....which is a claim YOU can't make with any certainty....thats what is known as conjecture; the formation of conclusions from incomplete evidence; guess....thats what you do to satisfy your preconseived beliefs.....
(what if his chefs grandson didn't believe Saddam had wmd and Bush was aware of that, wtf difference would it make? Hes not speaking for the chefs grandson.
A speaker speaks for himself unless he specifically says otherwise, ie, includes others in some claim........
President Bill Clinton (D)
Vice President Al Gore (D)
Sec. of State Madeline Albright (D)
Nat. Sec. Adviser Sandy Berger (D)
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D)
Sen. Bob Graham (D)
Sen. Carl Levin (D)
Sen. Tom Daschle (D)
Sen. John Kerry (D)
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D)
Sen. Robert Byrd (D)
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D)
Rep. Henry Waxman (D)
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D)
President Bush
You could make that same stupid, narrow-minded claim about any or all of these people concerning what they said about Saddam, Iraq and WMD. Its quite irrelevant
to what degree they professed certainty.....I doubt any of them said anything that they did not whole-hearted believe to be true....
Even I'm not partisan to claim all Democrats are liars....especially about Saddam....the claims
they made in their public statements over all those years tells me, they believed what they claimed.....
As a matter historical fact....Saddam having wmd was believed by just about every government in the Western World, and there is no doubt thats especially true
about the United States....Oops...did I just lie?
The fact that Bush made the same claim, and irrelevant though it is, with the same certainty as some of the Democrats, proves to reasonable people, beyond a shadow of a doubt, he is no more lying than those Democrats....
I say, "There is no doubt that Pres. Bush was not lying when he claimed that Saddam had wmd"......is that a lie because you believe otherwise....?
what you believe is irrelevant to what claims I or others make about anything.....I can be right or wrong, but I can't be lying.
So, because you're proving to be a dolt and simpleton with 3rd grade English comprehension, I'm sad to inform you, that you just don't qualify for 4th grade level
work in this subject....I believe that you can find plenty of uneducated and illiterate Mexican peons what can surely help get a grasp on the fact that
declarative statements usually mean EXACTLY what they say, while at the same time considering that a deliberate exaggeration could be used for effect (hyperbole), or
an expression that uses words in a nonliteral way, like a metaphor, or in an unusual way.
If someone want to make the factual statement, "there is no doubt" into a personally held opinion, all that needs to be added is the prepositional phrase, "in MY mind". Absent that qualifier, the statement stands as a statement of fact, and not an opinion. "There is no doubt that the earth revolves around the sun" is a true statement of fact. "There is no doubt that Saddam has stockpiles of WMD's" is a false statement of fact which Dubya knew to be false when he said it. He knew full well that many subordinates of his in his own intelligence community did indeed have doubt... There WAS doubt and he lied to us when he told us there was none.
You can have the Bush shit stains on your nose memorialized in bronze and it still won't turn his statement into anything but a lie.
Again... You're dismissed.