US 'no longer technology king'

US.... I have no idea. I can't imagine that the Government would invest much of our tax dollars in foreign companies, but I have never seen any data on that.

The rising costs of healthcare and the aging of our population are both strong proponents for increased R&D in healthcare. But our politicians are too obtuse to understand how to help allieviate the rising costs. They would rather point the blame finger rather at each other than try to work together to find a solution.
 
Superfreak said:
Um... .Wrong... the World Economic forum downgraded their ranking of the US based on political/regulatory reasons... not based on innovation... and they did not address the dollars spent.

The AEA was pissed that TECH research had declined. But when you actually look at their site it shows that with the TECH research decline their was a subsequent RISE in healthcare R&D. They are a TECH lobbying group, so of course they are not happy with that.

Show me where it says they are unpaid. Politicians (current or former) have not been known for their charity of time.... and it still doesn't qualify them as economic experts.

I don't think you want to admit that you don't have any numbers from any of your "sources" that actually support your "conclusions". The first two do not support you. The third is crap, unless you or they can provide the data that shows how they came to that conclusion. Surely that exists? They wouldn't come to that "conclusion" without providing anything to back it up? No politician would do that...would they? :)
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All three sources I gave you, were from credible, respected groups. As I said, they broadly agreed with Me, that the U.S. was in potential danger of losing its scientific edge. The reasons are myriad. As you stated, its not just funding, but regulatory reform. I stated this like 30 posts ago, so that's not a point of contention.

If you don't want to accept the broad consensus that all these experts have concluded - that the US faces challenges in maintaining its technical edge - what else can I do? I've provided expert, non-partisan analysis. You and topspin have provided individual opinons.

As for your other question, take my word for it. Independent commissions and boards established by the government to study a problem, are generally comprised of prominent americans who do the work for free. They don't draw a government salary. I really don't have the time to google it, to prove it to you.

I've never said the US is a technological backwater. All I've said, is what all these other sources I gave you said: we have challenges that we need to address, before other countries surpass us.
 
Superfreak said:
US.... I have no idea. I can't imagine that the Government would invest much of our tax dollars in foreign companies, but I have never seen any data on that.

The rising costs of healthcare and the aging of our population are both strong proponents for increased R&D in healthcare. But our politicians are too obtuse to understand how to help allieviate the rising costs. They would rather point the blame finger rather at each other than try to work together to find a solution.
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The pill bill did just that in a backdoor way super. By agreeing not to bargain on bulk purchase pricing of drugs....Foreign controlled pharma companies are mega political donors.
 
"The pill bill did just that in a backdoor way super. By agreeing not to bargain on bulk purchase pricing of drugs....Foreign controlled pharma companies are mega political donors."

1) I hate the pill bill. Atrocious.

2) not sure I follow your above post. How does that backdoor into spending tax dollars on foreign companies to do R&D?
 
Defense R&D has given us a TON of stuff we purchase daily. The idea that we get nothing for it is ridiculous. Cell phones and satellite phones, GPS, much of mp3 tech (especially in the recording side), we can go on and on. Defense R&D truly does a ton for us in the regular world as well. Many, many, many things we enjoy today came to us through that area. Shoot they even research drugs for painkillers that are in use in our hospitals today. Some surgical techniques, *sigh*...

It might not be "popular" to admit it, but it benefits us as a society to spend in that area.
 
Hmm but defense got lots of the baisis for those things from Nasa which we keep reducing funding for ?
The microchip for one....
 
strawman alert.

I never suggested that R & D spending on military research, never translates into consumer applications.

I said that massive spending on R & D research for the military industrial complex, is not, on balance, an effective use of human capital for long term sustainability and economic growth. This is a fact. Every empire in history that spent 40% of its public treasury on military spending, ultimately collapsed.
 
Yep just view the USSR for a recent example. Regan crowed that we drove them into bankruptcy trying to keep up with us. Well now we are doing it to ourselves.
 
uscitizen said:
Yep just view the USSR for a recent example. Regan crowed that we drove them into bankruptcy trying to keep up with us. Well now we are doing it to ourselves.
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I think we could cut pentagon spending by 50%, and still easily be able to defend ourselves.
 
Cypress said:
I think we could cut pentagon spending by 50%, and still easily be able to defend ourselves.
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We'd still spend more than 25% of the world's expenditures on military...

Currently we are nearly at 50%. Quite literally we almost spend as much as the entire rest of the world on the military.
 
Wow usc can read a headline.
I own shares in Toyota

Europe's median income per capita is way lower than ours and there unemployment is way higher.
Only losers post Europe is better than us dribble.
 
Umm, they figure their unimployment figures different from the way we do spinner.

Hmm who where the loser "experts" that reported on that then ?
I'll bet they had degrees :)

Again , why do you avoid the per capita wages spin ?
 
Your clueless, I'm done debating you on economics
Keep your glass almost empty despite the obvious facts and I'll go with the prosperity of the greatest wealth creation in the History of the World.
Piece.
 
I'm done debating you on economics
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Thank the powers that be!
God, Budda, the great slimy snail, Dow Jones, etc....
 
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