very important lessons to be learned from brokeback mountain

Watching a bull strutting away after he just dumped you on your @$$ will show you how much they enjoy doing something more than just standing in a field... There is more to rodeo that "hurting" animals.

His te sticals are tied and yanked. Of course he's glad to the person off of his back.
 
yeah I just love to get poked in the side with semi sharp objects....
Well, horses are so damned stupid -- and ecologically over-specialized -- that they probably would've gone extinct thousands of years ago if it weren't for us. They should be grateful for being stuck in the side with sharp objects.

Come to that, I know of parts of town where people pay good money to be penned in small spaces and poked with sharp objects. I doubt horses can be said to consent, however. ;)
 
It is also cruel to eat mass-produced chicken. Their living conditions are steaming vats of cruel.
 
Well, horses are so damned stupid -- and ecologically over-specialized -- that they probably would've gone extinct thousands of years ago if it weren't for us. They should be grateful for being stuck in the side with sharp objects.

Come to that, I know of parts of town where people pay good money to be penned in small spaces and poked with sharp objects. I doubt horses can be said to consent, however. ;)
I don't know of anybody who still uses actual spurs on horses. The Bronc riders also use the spurs that are blunted and made to roll. Notice while watching a rodeo how much blood there isn't. The animals are cared for, harming the animal is avoided stringently.
 
His te sticals are tied and yanked. Of course he's glad to the person off of his back.
Also, even while the rope is set properly, it is almost always still there when the person has been dumped or has gotten off after covering the animal (riding the full 8 seconds)... Notice that the bucking either stops completely right at that point, or soon thereafter regardless of that rope still being tied in exactly the same place.
 
They are made to roll. It would be more like one of those massage thingos that you roll along the back. Searching for "cruelty" because it just "seems" that way might not be as accurate as you think. Keeping the animal trapped in smaller areas than nature intended and giving the animal no outlet is far crueler than an 8 second ride.

A good rank bull will be treated like royalty and live a full and healthy life..

Cruel is what they do to get Veal for your table.

Well, I didn't create the food chain. I just play the game. Using animals for sustenance (sp?) is one thing. I find that torturing them for your own amusement is just cruel.

BTW - do you have a picture of this so called "massage thingos"/spurs?
 
Well, I didn't create the food chain. I just play the game. Using animals for sustenance (sp?) is one thing. I find that torturing them for your own amusement is just cruel.

BTW - do you have a picture of this so called "massage thingos"/spurs?
Nah, but I'm sure I can get one. They are rounded widely and made to roll. Riders who attempt to attach articles to make the spurs stick rather than roll are sanctioned and will actually be banned if they persist.
 
Read that link LadyT...

Flankstrap
The flankstrap is the rope that goes around the bull's midsection. Its purpose is to enhance the natural bucking motion of a bull and to encourage the animal to extend its hind legs when trying to get his rider on the ground. The rope is fleece-lined and does not hurt the bull. A common misperception is that this strap somehow irritates or is tied to the bull's testicles! This is simply not true. That would cause the animal pain and discourage him from bucking or even moving - exactly the opposite of the desired behavior. The flank strap never covers or goes around a bull’s genitals, and no sharp or foreign objects are ever placed inside the flank strap to agitate the animal. Furthermore, a flank strap cannot be too tight around the bull’s flank or the bull will be too uncomfortable to perform. Pulling the flank strap too tight would restrict a bull’s motion, resulting in an inferior performance by the bull and quite possibly a reride for the bull rider. The flank strap is designed for quick release and is removed immediately after the bull exits the arena.
 
Nah, but I'm sure I can get one. They are rounded widely and made to roll.
I went to more than a few rodeos as a youngun and know a few people who still do -- I hang out with people with a lot of anachronistic leanings. While I agree that most rodeo contestants genuinely care for the animals and don't intend harm, harm does happen. Fairly often. Calf roping being the most notorious example.

I think that the days of rodeo are numbered. That number is probably greater than the remaining days of my life, but I still think they're numbered.
 
I googled some spur images and they look pretty painful to me.
Those are the riding spurs that I talked about. I actually know not even one person who uses them for horses even... The spurs you must purchase for PBR riding are specifically designed not to harm the animal. Also remember that their skin is 11 times thicker than human skin...
 
I'll take the sites word for it because frankly, I don't feel like doing my own research.

however, I did see this:
"The flankstrap is the rope that goes around the bull's midsection. Its purpose is to enhance the natural bucking motion of a bull and to encourage the animal to extend its hind legs when trying to get his rider on the ground. "

Which tells me that the animal is irritated and does not want the flankstrap around him which is why it bucks.

that's pretty much the same way I'd react if someone started to choke me.
 
When I lived in Montana I was struck by how far apart things are. I never minded becasue the drive was always beautifull... but I learned that when you have a half tank of gas, its time to start looking for a station...!
 
Here is a picture of the spurs I am talking about:

spurs_113.jpg
 
I'll take the sites word for it because frankly, I don't feel like doing my own research.

however, I did see this:
"The flankstrap is the rope that goes around the bull's midsection. Its purpose is to enhance the natural bucking motion of a bull and to encourage the animal to extend its hind legs when trying to get his rider on the ground. "

Which tells me that the animal is irritated and does not want the flankstrap around him which is why it bucks.

that's pretty much the same way I'd react if someone started to choke me.
The rope is never pulled that tightly, and you would know it if you read it. As I stated. Watch a bullride. See what happens when the cowboy has been dropped or gotten off. The bull stops, even while wearing the flank rope. It isn't because of that rope that the bull bucks.
 
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