Spin some more, Zappy.
Tell me how many budgets Obama has had passed during his terms in office so far?
VFW blasts Obama's DoD
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Spin some more, Zappy.
Tell me how many budgets Obama has had passed during his terms in office so far?
freaking Holder.
and this: http://www.nationalreview.com/campa...h-gratuity-why-wont-they-pay-it-jim-geraghty#!
just ONCE before Obama leaves Office i'd like to see some acountability out of the executive branch
Look.
The provide pay and allowances to members of the Armed Forces is very specific, allowances IS the "Death Gratuity" - i mean it is ABSURD to think the Death Gratuity is not payable to the beneficiary/family of the DEAD.
Further - doesn't Obama KNOW about the dead US troops in Afg? Or those just dieing? WTF - he is Commander -in Chief ; he's a got a shitload of lawyers under him.
Does NO ONE in thsi incompetent adm. feel the need to kick this upstairs?? Or do they just bounce things around, and never take down the "internal walls"
that the Adm is fond of setting up, to bury accountability?
Fuck this shit. Obama is playing the shutdown for political gain JUST like Congress. Oh well.. call "hot potato" on Obama on this one
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr3210/text
One Hundred Thirteenth Congress
of the
United States of America
AT THE FIRST SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Thursday,
the third day of January, two thousand and thirteen
An Act
Making continuing appropriations for military pay in the event of a Government shutdown.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘Pay Our Military Act’.
SEC. 2. CONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES.
(a) In General- There are hereby appropriated for fiscal year 2014, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, for any period during which interim or full-year appropriations for fiscal year 2014 are not in effect--
(1) such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to members of the Armed Forces (as defined in section 101(a)(4) of title 10, United States Code), including reserve components thereof, who perform active service during such period;
(2) such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to the civilian personnel of the Department of Defense (and the Department of Homeland Security in the case of the Coast Guard) whom the Secretary concerned determines are providing support to members of the Armed Forces described in paragraph (1); and
(3) such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to contractors of the Department of Defense (and the Department of Homeland Security in the case of the Coast Guard) whom the Secretary concerned determines are providing support to members of the Armed Forces described in paragraph (1).
(b) Secretary Concerned Defined- In this section, the term ‘Secretary concerned’ means--
(1) the Secretary of Defense with respect to matters concerning the Department of Defense; and
(2) the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to matters concerning the Coast Guard.
SEC. 3. TERMINATION.
Appropriations and funds made available and authority granted pursuant to this Act shall be available until whichever of the following first occurs: (1) the enactment into law of an appropriation (including a continuing appropriation) for any purpose for which amounts are made available in section 2; (2) the enactment into law of the applicable regular or continuing appropriations resolution or other Act without any appropriation for such purpose; or (3) January 1, 2015.
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Vice President of the United States and
President of the Senate.
so look I'm not even a freaking lawyer, and I can see how this reads - it doesn't say JUST THE MEMEBERS - it says ARMED FORCES which is a generalized meaning for the branches of Services.
To wit; the Armed Forces does NOT EXCLUDE the payments to the families...jeese.,,, so tired of the wiggling
One Hundred Thirteenth Congress
of the
United States of America
AT THE FIRST SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Thursday,
the third day of January, two thousand and thirteen
An Act
Making continuing appropriations for military pay in the event of a Government shutdown.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ‘Pay Our Military Act’.
SEC. 2. CONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS FOR MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES.
(a) In General- There are hereby appropriated for fiscal year 2014, out of any money in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, for any period during which interim or full-year appropriations for fiscal year 2014 are not in effect--
(1) such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to members of the Armed Forces (as defined in section 101(a)(4) of title 10, United States Code), including reserve components thereof, who perform active service during such period;
(2) such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to the civilian personnel of the Department of Defense (and the Department of Homeland Security in the case of the Coast Guard) whom the Secretary concerned determines are providing support to members of the Armed Forces described in paragraph (1); and
(3) such sums as are necessary to provide pay and allowances to contractors of the Department of Defense (and the Department of Homeland Security in the case of the Coast Guard) whom the Secretary concerned determines are providing support to members of the Armed Forces described in paragraph (1).
(b) Secretary Concerned Defined- In this section, the term ‘Secretary concerned’ means--
(1) the Secretary of Defense with respect to matters concerning the Department of Defense; and
(2) the Secretary of Homeland Security with respect to matters concerning the Coast Guard.
SEC. 3. TERMINATION.
Appropriations and funds made available and authority granted pursuant to this Act shall be available until whichever of the following first occurs: (1) the enactment into law of an appropriation (including a continuing appropriation) for any purpose for which amounts are made available in section 2; (2) the enactment into law of the applicable regular or continuing appropriations resolution or other Act without any appropriation for such purpose; or (3) January 1, 2015.
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Vice President of the United States and
President of the Senate.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/101
so look I'm not even a freaking lawyer, and I can see how this reads - it doesn't say JUST THE MEMEBERS - it says ARMED FORCES which is a generalized meaning for the branches of Services.
To wit; the Armed Forces does NOT EXCLUDE the payments to the families...jeese.,,, so tired of the wiggling
Thats it ?.....The Sen. Democrats refuse to consider paying the death benefits and you're whining about Republicans ?
That isn't even the issue.....
Nice lame try.....poor Zippy
Althea
Althea told me...........
Didn't the CR that sundowned on Oct. 1 negate that bill?
Althea
Althea told me...........
To be clear...if defunding O'care wasn't included in the budget, a clusterfuck is cool? But paying those in need, which wasn't important enough during last month's dog and pony show is now on the front burner?Originally Posted by NOVA
Thats it ?.....The Sen. Democrats refuse to consider paying the death benefits and you're whining about Republicans ?
That isn't even the issue.....
Nice lame try.....poor Zippy
Senate should NOT vote on this. You don't want govt? You don't get govt.
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Please run with that before the midterms.
Althea
Althea told me...........
I thought we're talking about the one that was signed in Jan? Just before the last time Republicans wanted to shut down the govt. It terminates as soon as a CR is passed.
Yep...you posted the bill that was passed last Jan. Soo......didn't the CR terminate that bill?
Althea
Althea told me...........
As long as Republicans continue to shut down the govt., it will automatically be the number one mid term issue
Taft2016
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Compelling argument.
So if you're concerned about the destruction of the country's health care system and crushing debt being passed onto future generations, you obviously must be an anarchist.
Nah, on second thought it's not compelling at all. It's moronic.
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Althea
Althea told me...........
No....no I'm not worried about 'crushing debt'. Know why? Because EVERY Republican POTUS who referenced that false issue, went on to spend money that we didn't have. All doing it while cutting taxes.
So, no...I'm not worried about crushing debt at all. In case nobody ever told you, this nation was BORN in debt. You think fighting for our freedom didn't have a pricetag?
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not sure, I read it 2 ways with the termination date, yet the contined appropriation in the event of a gov't shut down.
I'd have to see when Obama signed it, from what I know it was just recently signed, but trying to do research on this is just too archaic, and time consuming.
Can't get any clarity thru media; here is the latest I can find. Dysfunctional DC at it's finest, another reason to just forget partisan politics, as it inevitably leads to gridlock.
I mean when Congress passes this stuff, it's brought up, and Congressional aides are telling Congress people various things,,hard to see thru the spin.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ath-gratuities-on-hold-until-end-of-shutdown/
shows DoD still can't/won't pay out
I thought cnn was an extension of Fukx and just as right wing.
Althea
Althea told me...........
Whereas I'm reading that a similar bill was passed recently, albeit with improper language, the one being discussed here is from Jan, with a termination in the event of any other legislation re. spending.