i'll go with your interpretation, you're much more able to see these things clearly then I can.
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VFW blasts Obama's DoD
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It doesn't authorize payments to the Armed Forces. It authorizes payments to members of the Armed Forces. When those members die, how can payments be made them?
well I screwed the pooch on this one, DH. Lemme look at it carefully....
Looking at the language, the allowances (including the so called "death gratuity") are to be paid -the intent is clear.
A death gratuity, cannot be paid to a dead person. but it is an allowance, so the legal intent is to pay it to whomeever is eligible?
I'm going to do a strategic retreat on this thread....lol.....last post, but I wanted to answer
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I put nothing past any of them. Both dems and reps suck.
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I don't trust any of them. Right or left.
Well, you actually have to look at the language of the statutes that provide the allowances. For example, here's the statute that provides allowances for the family of members to attend burial services. Look at to whom the payments are to be made:
The payments are directed to the relatives of members of the Armed Forces. So bill that authorized continued pay and allowances to members of the Armed Forces does not permit continued payments under this statute, unfortunately. Likewise, the death gratuity stautes direct that the amount be paid to a survivor designated by the member of the Armed Forces. Again, a bill that authorized pay and allowances to members of the Armed Forces does not authorized payment to be pmade to survivors of the member (I'd also note that the death gratuity does not fall under the Section of the US Code that deals with "pay and allowances of the uniformed services).
It's a fuck up. And one that should be fixed, but the idea that Obama is not making the payments just to be an asshole is nonsense. The law doesn't allow the payments, absent some clever lawyering (that he would otherwise be excoriated for).
The payments are directed to the relatives of members of the Armed Forces. So bill that authorized continued pay and allowances to members of the Armed Forces does not permit continued payments under this statute, unfortunately. Likewise, the death gratuity stautes direct that the amount be paid to a survivor designated by the member of the Armed Forces. Again, a bill that authorized pay and allowances to members of the Armed Forces does not authorized payment to be pmade to survivors of the member (I'd also note that the death gratuity does not fall under the Section of the US Code that deals with "pay and allowances of the uniformed services).
It's a fuck up. And one that should be fixed, but the idea that Obama is not making the payments just to be an asshole is nonsense. The law doesn't allow the payments, absent some clever lawyering (that he would otherwise be excoriated for).
Did that price include the freedom to use the word "cunt" on a message board? Or is there a surcharge?
Just wondering.
Strawman much?
Obama and Hagel manged some "clever lawyering" to get around 400,000 DoD civilians back to work Monday despite the "shutdown".
Maybe you missed that.
I guess "morale" (that was the excuse) doesn't matter so much when the soldiers are dead.
Liberals mock while survivors are in shock.
Also, too, the lawyering wasn't really all that clever. Here is the relevant statutory language with respect to which DoD civilian personnel can be paid:
So, like, there's a good deal of deference to the Secretary of Defense to determine which civilian contractors can be deemed to be providing "support" to the members of the Armed Forces, and, presumably, to define what "support" means.
So, like, there's a good deal of deference to the Secretary of Defense to determine which civilian contractors can be deemed to be providing "support" to the members of the Armed Forces, and, presumably, to define what "support" means.
Of course not dimwit; how can anyone expect the most powerful man in the world, leader of the free world to be responsible for ANYTHING that happens in his own country, let alone the world.
Yes, you really are THAT stupid.
Quite the compelling argument dimwit; where'd you parrot that one from? The White House? Chris Madviews? Rachel Madcow? The DNC.
Of course one cannot blame the President; whatever would he have to do with anything that happens in his own country??!!
Yes, you really are THAT stupid.
One thing we can count on; you can't get any dumber.
It appears to me that you are a dimwitted twit so imbedded in hyper partisan buffoonery that you refuse to hold Democrars accountable for anything; which defines ignorance.
And he apparently declined to define "support" in a way that would have honored our commitment as a nation to the survivors of dead servicemembers.
Care to explain why, or are you going to make another joke?
You're proof that even the most empty headed buffoon can be trained to parrot the idiot talking pints of the left. With enough kool-aid, even the smallest most inactive brain can be brought to a level of dullard.
So can you explain why the brilliant Harvard-educated constitutional scholar didn't spot the deficiency and bring it to the worlds' attention before he signed it?
Instead, he was surprised when his choice for Sec Def allowed the Pentagon to deny the payments...like everyone else.
Is there anything he's responsible for that happens on his watch?
Because only DOD civilians that provide support to members of the armed forces can be paid under the law.