We Have So Much To Be Thankful To China For

[serenity]

you're way off base. but you do you. get down with your funky self.

Looks like you are intellectually side stepping and I really don't care, when talking to you my brain gets to going around your mantra and it occurred to me how intellect plays games upon other people's instinctive awareness and subliminally uses vocabulary to secure the emotional advantage since doubt is the key ingredient for obedience to syllables historically done so far.

Statistically averaged subjective facts create avenues of interpretation to objective goals beyond simultaneously here as all things spontaneously timed apart now as specifically taking place.

thanks for the conversations, but I am not playing ball of confusion here, you are. means, motives, methods, opportunities, mayhem, madness, misery from the artful game played historically. Decypher is my avatar. 24/7 all the way to rule of 72 in compounding interest inside that image.

 

[Bill]

Yes China exports excess capacity and inflation, their economy is a giant ponzi scheme as most of their claimed assets are non-performing.

1.5 billion people and one Nobel prize winner, that tells you all you need to know about China.

Been hearing that a lot. & for a long time.........

So when will they fold like a cheap suit or topple like a house of cards??

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Jack,

Thanks for the Chart. It's good to know some people see the problem with the 'Wealth Disparity'.
If more of us understood the 'gap', maybe we could find a more equitable solution?

'America First'. NOT ... the 'Wealthy First'.

ExACTly.

Thank you.

So glad there are so many of us who get it.

We just gotta keep pushin' the cause, spreadin' the word, making sure everybody understands.

The more people who get this, the closer we come to turning things around.

 

[Bill]

Good morning Bill,







Where did China get the money they have?

Who is their big cash cow?

Well go out your front door & look across the street, then down the street, then up the street, then look in the bathroom mirror & ponder

You could do the same in Japan, Taiwan & Korea... & get the same answer...

 

[Bill]

Selling and distributing cheap shit around the globe and stealing other nation's technology, that's how. DUH!!

Well it is sorta like that~sorta.. Much of the tech isn't owned by a nation, but by international companies that don't give a shit about this country any more than it does china or any place else........ They would sell their souls, & ours if given half a chance.......

I personally don't give a shit for companies like apple that make everything in china so they can suck an extra buck out of Americans & they set up a shack in Ireland to evade paying taxes here. FUCK them, the CEO & their phones............

 

[Bill]

I don't expect anybody to be thankful for China's denials. I certainly am not. They made a huge mistake by denying this in the beginning.

trump has denied, & lied, is he any better or different here??

I certainly hope that the good folks will measure their leaders the same as they do the butchers in china.........

 

[Bill]

What we need to do is stop relying on Chinese supply chains, place sanctions, disincentivize western companies from doing business with them, and hope the CCP falls under their own weight as they would have had Nixon never opened up trade to them. China has been at economic war with us for decades it's all in the PLA handbook.

Trump never went into denial mode he implemented travel restrictions and quarantines and declared a national public health emergency as early as January 31st while the CCP and the WHO were still downplaying the threat and advising against travel restrictions while locking down Wuhan to domestic travel but leaving it open to international flights.

What sanctions were you thinking?? What do you think the response aka retaliation is going to be??

Certainly placing disincentives was a good idea, but that horse is long gone........ So they leave China, & go where?? They coming home to Ohio??

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Bill,

Well go out your front door & look across the street, then down the street, then up the street, then look in the bathroom mirror & ponder

You could do the same in Japan, Taiwan & Korea... & get the same answer...

I would just take a wild guess that the USA is their biggest trading partner. I don't know, so I could be wrong. That's my understanding unless someone would like to correct me.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Hello Bill,



I would just take a wild guess that the USA is their biggest trading partner. I don't know, so I could be wrong. That's my understanding unless someone would like to correct me.

Correcting your opening post I decided is too much work.....would you like to pick out just one claim?

I might be interested in that.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Looks like you are intellectually side stepping and I really don't care, when talking to you my brain gets to going around your mantra and it occurred to me how intellect plays games upon other people's instinctive awareness and subliminally uses vocabulary to secure the emotional advantage since doubt is the key ingredient for obedience to syllables historically done so far.

Statistically averaged subjective facts create avenues of interpretation to objective goals beyond simultaneously here as all things spontaneously timed apart now as specifically taking place.

thanks for the conversations, but I am not playing ball of confusion here, you are. means, motives, methods, opportunities, mayhem, madness, misery from the artful game played historically. Decypher is my avatar. 24/7 all the way to rule of 72 in compounding interest inside that image.

you sure about that?

 

[FreeSpeech]

What sanctions were you thinking?? What do you think the response aka retaliation is going to be??

Certainly placing disincentives was a good idea, but that horse is long gone........ So they leave China, & go where?? They coming home to Ohio??

Don't care what their response will be like I said they've been at economic war with us for decades they need to be made to pay for the blood of millions across the globe due to their coverup of the Wuhan outbreak not to mention the destruction of the global economy.

A return to domestic manufacturing would be the ideal but they're are a myriad of other countries where we could shift our supply lines; such as, Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, the Phillipines, and India.

 

[FreeSpeech]

Been hearing that a lot. & for a long time.........

So when will they fold like a cheap suit or topple like a house of cards??

As soon as we stop propping them up.

 

[Bill]

Hello Bill,



I would just take a wild guess that the USA is their biggest trading partner. I don't know, so I could be wrong. That's my understanding unless someone would like to correct me.

I was answering your question the best I can........ It wasn't only the usa moving industry there, Japan, Taiwan & Korea where big movers in the beginning, now everyone is forced in~ * & it is expanding to SEasia as well..

Sure, we are the biggest market, now...... As I have repeatedly stated they are moving to create markets-NEW MARKETS which will leave them less reliant on our big market..

Although they are not totally done w/ us, there is still money to be made from US, that is obviously declining as we go further into debt, business leave & fail to be required to pay taxes here.. You toss out the goose that lays the golden eggs~the ever shrinking middle class & you're left w/ rust belt from sea to sea..

That sounds cynical, & it is, but I see nothing that is going to change that trajectory..

There are those advocating sanctions on China.. Now I would like to see that, specifically how anyone thinks it will work.. IMHO it will work as well as taxing Americans more does w/ tariffs on goods from China (especially during a fuckin pandemic along w/ a recession)..

There are now many, many countries that do much more business w/ the CCP than they do w/ us..

As many as 126 countries and 29 international organizations are listed as on board w/ the BRI (belt & road Initiative).. That is in Africa, Asia North & South America & Europe...

is trump going to force them to choose between us & China??

 

[Bill]

Don't care what their response will be like I said they've been at economic war with us for decades they need to be made to pay for the blood of millions across the globe due to their coverup of the Wuhan outbreak not to mention the destruction of the global economy.

A return to domestic manufacturing would be the ideal but they're are a myriad of other countries where we could shift our supply lines; such as, Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, the Phillipines, and India.

Tell me why I'm not surprised here... Your anger is what is important, revenge etc....

So you don't mind if the jobs go to other countries, & the hell w/ the folks back home in Ohio, they got welfare & minimum wage increases wtf more do they want

WE?? Who is we?? You got some factories your are thinking of moving around?? Does you board know about it?? Share holders on board w/ that move?? asking for a friend...

 

[Bill]

As soon as we stop propping them up.

Gee, I wonder why we/trump is propping them up??

Thoughts???

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello FreeSpeech,

Yes China exports excess capacity and inflation, their economy is a giant ponzi scheme as most of their claimed assets are non-performing.

1.5 billion people and one Nobel prize winner, that tells you all you need to know about China.

How is America NOT a giant ponzi scheme?

America is great, fabulous nation, love my home country, but we have to be honest. Our powerful capitalists go all over the globe looking for places to exploit cheap labor. Our capitalists are very interested to exploit places with lax environmental and safety laws and regulations. And even here within our own borders, we would not have food in the grocery stores without undocumented migrant farm workers. The stark differences in wealth across our population show a heavy favoritism for the rich and powerful marked by a disdainful nonchalance and disregard to the plight of the disadvantaged. America's extreme wealth disparity paints a picture of the rich and powerful with the government seemingly wrapped around their little finger; coupled with declining upward mobility and hopeless cross-generational poverty for the powerless.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello WitoldPilecki,

I mentioned Porsche, and Von Siemens.

But, evil is not excused by decent achievements.

Pardon me, I missed that. So you did.

Everybody has their good side and their bad side. And so it is with nations as well.

If we don't want to be around people we disagree with we can choose to stay away from them. But when they are family, or coworkers, that makes it far more difficult. We have to learn how to interface with those we don't always approve of.

Nations are like that because we share the same planet. And the world is getting smaller all the time.

We cannot pretend China does not exist on the same planet with us, share the same environment.

If we have objections with their actions we must raise them, we must use skillful diplomacy to express our concerns and reach a better understanding. Making threats makes skillful diplomacy far more difficult.

The problem with DT is he does not understand diplomacy and does not value it. He has trashed the State Department, fired people with decades of irreplaceable experience and contacts in other nations. Utterly naive and foolish. He's messing everything up.

Skilled negotiators can carefully remind China that it is in their own best interest to take the concerns of the United States very seriously. Without the USA, they lose their cash cow. Who would buy their products? China needs the USA as much as the USA needs China. Together we make one another stronger. Working out the details of our trade agreements is a never ending task. Threats derail that process. This administration has been a setback in very needed diplomacy.

 

[serenity]

you sure about that?

Absolutely. Your vernacular matches your character's mental state of mind. You protect a narrative and defend against understanding actual time life keeps reproductions separated so far.

You prefer government by doubt to gain a social advantage over those willing to believe life is more than , timed apart so far.

 

[RB 60]

Well it is sorta like that~sorta.. Much of the tech isn't owned by a nation, but by international companies that don't give a shit about this country any more than it does china or any place else........ They would sell their souls, & ours if given half a chance.......

I personally don't give a shit for companies like apple that make everything in china so they can suck an extra buck out of Americans & they set up a shack in Ireland to evade paying taxes here. FUCK them, the CEO & their phones............

So basically, you cannot refute my post that China steals other country's tech.

 

[serenity]

Hello WitoldPilecki,



Everybody has their good side and their bad side. And so it is with nations as well.

If we don't want to be around people like that we can choose to stay away from them. But when they are family, or coworkers, that makes it far more difficult. We have to learn how to interface with those we don't always approve of.

Nations are like that because we share the same planet. And the world is getting smaller all the time.

We cannot pretend China does not exist on the same planet with us, share the same environment.

If we have objections with their actions we must raise them, we must use skillful diplomacy to express our concerns and reach a better understanding. Making threats makes skillful diplomacy far more difficult.

The problem with DT is he does not understand diplomacy and does not value it. He has trashed the State Department, fired people with decades of irreplaceable experience and contacts in other nations. Utterly naive and foolish. He's messing everything up.

Skilled negotiators can carefully remind China that it is in their own best interest to take the concerns of the United States very seriously. Without the USA, they lose their cash cow. Who would buy their products? China needs the USA as much as the USA needs China. Together we make one another stronger. Working out the details of our trade agreements is a never ending task. Threats derail that process. This administration has been a setback in very needed diplomacy.

Why do you compare personality with day and night sides of a rotating planet? This concept of owing an eternal debt of gratitde for something done thousands of years ago really doesn't hold much value unless counting rotations and falsifying life to match subjective opinions with objectives of controlling outcomes of life timed apart now as reproductions change shape, form, people present from now on in plain sight.

Life in plain sight doesn't have secrets, realities do. Realites are only performed by homo sapiens pretending being human is more than occupying space now with lifetimes added so far.

Promises in the Dark shadows of instigated doubt now is the universal point of details never stay the same combined results twice. Simple compounding DNA makes each reproduction a half life courier to reproductive cells merged to added rep;acements from now on or never again as functioning so far and developed over 7.8 billion homo sapiens living now, wich includes you and I, same as the rest.

Do your best factualizing that isn't true.