What makes unalienable rights “unalienable?”

[SmarterthanYou]

The government can take away our rights. Thankfully, we have elections, so we have a say. But ultimately it's the government that decides what's legal or illegal.

when did we do away with juries of our peers????

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Perhaps your parents should have considered abortion? So you weren't taught right from wrong? You were born with that knowledge. STFU dumbass.

Blah, blah, blah, blah.....I get it. You hate facts.

you obviously haven't learned to read yet.............have you, dumbass?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

There are no guarantees in life. That is naive and stupid.

then how can you say that our rights are guaranteed?????? did you start drinking early today?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

That was Jefferson, cockbite.

so now you're saying that jefferson wrote the constitution???? how fucking stupid can you be?

BTW, Madison’s BofR was nothing more than a political tool to get him elected. Nothing special.

Moron.

provide a citation for this, you stupid fucking moron. you must have skipped history your entire grade school education..

 

[Truth Detector]

then how can you say that our rights are guaranteed?????? did you start drinking early today?

I never made such a statement. Why lie about it? Did you start drinking early today?

 

[StoneByStone]

Probably not, so why waste any time w/ him??

Sometimes making him mad is funny.

 

[StoneByStone]

when did we do away with juries of our peers????

The government allows us to have that.

 

[domer76]

so now you're saying that jefferson wrote the constitution???? how fucking stupid can you be?


provide a citation for this, you stupid fucking moron. you must have skipped history your entire grade school education..

You really are one stupid fucktard.

Jefferson = “life, liberty, pursuit of happiness = lie, dumbfuck.

Patrick Henry hated Madison, stupid fuck, and did everything he could to keep him from being elected in Virginia. The only way Madison could muster enough support was to promise a Bill of Rights to the Anti-Federalists. A political tool, stupid fuck. Nothing more, nothing less. And it worked.

https://www.lawliberty.org/2012/01/28/patrick-henry-the-anti-madison/

Ignorant moron, do some fucking homework for once.

 

[domer76]

when did we do away with juries of our peers????

Juries decide guilt. They don’t make laws.

 

[countryboy]

So you are telling us the Founding Fathers, a good number who were deists and agnostics, and who went out of their way to purposely separate Church and State, equated your 21st Century image of God with their understanding of "Creator?"

I do believe they are referring to Locke here and his concept of natural rights, Platonic concepts existing in nature before and after man, notice they didn't specify God, rather "Creator," never implying the two were the same

Name all the deists and agnostics who were founding fathers, go ahead, I'll wait.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

wow, how do you fucktards survive being this damned stupid.........i'm talking to YOU domer and stone...........

 

[Robo]

Your whole narrative leads to a Christian understanding of God, which from there you applied to justify a quasi theocratic state, the exact thing the Founding Fathers wanted to avoid

While it may be curious to you that America's founding principles are strongly related to a "Christian" understanding of a God, I find it most natural since most of our founders were either Christians or highly influenced by Christianity from birth. Actually I find nothing wrong with that, how about you?

 

[Robo]

So then it is the will of the ppl that fulfill/backup the guarantee? Not the "Creator" or government?

So then it's actually humans either denying America's founding principles or remaining loyal to them.

 

[Robo]

again, the constitution is nothing more than a legal document that provides the framework and powers/responsibilities of the newly created federal government

Based in a set of principles guaranteeing unalienable rights by the power of a "creator." The issue & proposition is, there's no such thing as an unalienable right without the power of a creator. Thereby all rights are determined by Men & Men's laws based solely on Man's interpretations of justice as influenced by Man's biases. I prefer laws based in the proposition that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.

 

[Robo]

the courts are not made from God, nor do they represent God. they are administered by man and judged by man

In America the rule of law as sworn to by every jurist is based on the proposition that all men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.

 

[Robo]

so when an innocent person is convicted in a court of God, he was on lunch break????

Courts are conducted by fallible men sworn to administer justice based in the proposition that all men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. If a court violates that principle it's humans who were on a lunch break & a damned good argument for an appeal, don't you think?

 

[Robo]

so if man/woman/men/women can deny rights, they are also the only guarantor of those rights as well, thus we have a jury of our peers

Actually NO! Men cannot violate the constitutional rule of law that's based in the proposition that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. Thus, it's the Constitution that guarantees and preserves unalienable rights. Our Constitution is volume #2 of our founding documents. The Declaration is volume #1. Volume #1 recites our reason & purpose as a nation, volume #2 is the the construction & enumeration of the rule of law as based in the principles of volume #1.

 

[Robo]

True, which is why rights aren't unalienable. They can be taken away.
Like Benjamin Franklin said, America is "a Republic.... if you can keep it."

In America rights can only be "taken away" by a corrupt government.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

What makes unalienable rights “unalienable?”

“We hold these truths to be self evident, that all Men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, and among these rights are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

The second paragraph of our Declaration Of Independence says it all. It reminds us all that without a “creator” there is no such thing as unalienable rights. Thus, our entire concept of rights being incapable of being taken away is only secured by a belief in a creator of all Men, as all members of the human race without regard for sex. It was those words that ended slavery and incorporated “All Men” into the concept of unalienable rights without regard for race or creed, but the concept of a creator is in and of itself unalienable to have the unalienable power to guarantee unalienable rights to all Men. Otherwise, all Men would have to rely on human government for any guarantee of any rights, an exercise in futility to say the least.

Thus, to deny the “creator” is to deny any logical concept of unalienable rights. Think about that before you vote. Who among our politicians holds the concept of a creator as being a self evident truth? Who among our politicians holds the concept of all Men being created equal as an endowment of our creator? Who among our politicians holds America’s founding principles as “truths.” Who are the real traditional Americans? Who are America’s true patriots? If we know our history, we know the answers to all of those questions.

"What's unalienable cannot be taken away or denied. Its most famous use is in the Declaration of Independence, which says people have unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

 

[Robo]

When has God ever stepped in to protect anyone's rights?

Every single time our constitutional rule of law is respected, followed & administered & America's justice based on the proposition that all men are created equal and endowed by their "CREATOR" with certain unalienable rights, prevails!!! Next question!!!