What’s wrong with Woke?

Yakuda said:
Nothing you say is distressing. If you want us to believe you're a profound thinker just ask I'm sure someone will entertain you. But I bet you never get around to "distressing" anyone. I know you're distressed by the truth of this matter.
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Suit yourself...stay ignorant. I couldn't give a fuck.


Dachshund
 
Yakuda said:
So you're a fucking idiot just as I suspected. Your dog is helping he wasn't you to butt fuck him again. Shit stain.
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:lolup:

What incited people? You mean besides Trump and his unending lies?

Oh, I don’t know. How about police killings of blacks, for starters?

Dumbfuck.
 
domer76 said:
:lolup:

What incited people? You mean besides Trump and his unending lies?

Oh, I don’t know. How about police killings of blacks, for starters?

Dumbfuck.
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You're a fucking idiot. How many blacks were killed by police last year?
 
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cawacko said:
You said the Silicon Valley was very conservative. Show me the last Republican elected in San Francisco or the Silicon Valley. Because one may not be a died in the wool Bernie supporter does not mean they aren't liberal. There's a certain level of pragmatism people show, Tim Cook is a Democrat but has donated to Republican candidates because it is good for Apple's business as an example.

But what I wrote dominates the news on a daily basis here locally.
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1) I did not say 'it' was very conservative.
2) I said you would know better than me.
3) Sometimes I am wrong.
4) I sent you and article showing I was wrong, and giving more detailed information.
5) You keep trying to fight about it.
 
Dachshund said:
If you want me to explain the issue of "systematic racism" I can do that for you quite easily,HOWEVER, it means that I would have to tell you a truth that you might find very distressing. If you think you can handle hearing it let me know, and I'll tell you what "systematic racism" really is.


Dachshund
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Tell me what you think it is?
 
Jarod said:
I hear Trumppers complaining about people they call “Woke”.

The way I understand it, if a person tries to be aware of others, their needs and feelings, and tries to behave in a considerate way toward others, they are “Woke”.

Somehow that’s an insult?
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You should learn to ensure you know what a word or term means before using it...

First used in the 1940s, the term has resurfaced in recent years as a concept that symbolizes perceived awareness of social issues and movement. By the late 2010s, woke had been adopted as a more generic slang term associated with left-wing politics, progressive or socially liberal causes such as anti-racism, LGBT rights, feminism and environmentalism. It has also been the subject of memes, ironic usage and criticism for its methods and consequences. Its widespread use since 2014 is a result of the Black Lives Matter movement
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke
(as starters)

Woke, or Wokeness is just shorthand for having a radical Leftist mindset on a number of Leftist causes. It is a way of saying you are a good little Leftist that follows dogma.
 
Jarod said:
I don't encourage feeling badly about it, but I do encourage trying to do better. Making fun of those of us who do try to do better is a great example of why systematic racism still exists in our nation.

They need to stop calling people names just for trying to be better people.
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If someone asked you what you are doing to end systemic racism how would you respond? (and do not say 'I vote for Democratic politicians')
 
Yakuda said:
Well let me be clear I don't care about "woke". It means absolutly nothing to me. As to definitions if individual definitions rule the day then any discussions are useless. A word either means something we agree on or it doesn't. We can't each have our individual definitions and have a useful conversation.

You just used the word "system" in the explanation of your position which i take to mean that you think there is a wide reaching method of operation in place that prevents some people from moving forward. The existence of a black president and black people in positions of power across the nations seems to contradict the idea that a system exist to keep blacks from succeeding. Its a contradiction I have never seen adequately addressed. Sorry.

The narrative you use also seems flawed. Slavery did not exist a "couple of generations" ago in my opinion. You use the words "were" denied education. That hasn't been the case for a very long time in my opinion. Now I agree their may be racist people making decisions but systemic racism? I don't see it.
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A discussion is not useless if we share with each other, through discussion, where we stand on issues. Part of such discussion is understanding what each other mean when we use words. For example some people are using "woke" to mean something different than its actual definition. (as in its short for awake to something, yet you are using it as in 'pretending to be awake to something') You might note that we have had two people in America elected to national office with black blood, NEITHER of them come from families that were once slaves, yet the vast majority of black Americans come from families that were enslaved. Interesting, what does that tell you? Slavery harmed families generationally and we are still seeing that.

My older brother went to a segregated school, it was much better than the local black school. Some black kids of MY GENERATION were denied as good of an education (by a significant margin) as white kids.
 
Dachshund said:
Yup, that's correct. It comes straight out of the standard reference work on Critical Race Theory, i.e, "Critical Race Theory: the Key Works that made the Movement" by Kimberle Crenshaw, 1995 Is it crazy ? Yes, it is - TOTALLY. Am I pissing around and making this all up? No, I am definitely not. (check it out for yourself if you don't believe me). The Wokeness ideology is grounded pretty much exclusively on CRT.


Here's something else you might find interesting. CRT/Wokeness, rejects Western Enlightenment: reason; logic; science; mathematics and empiricism because it believes these are all instruments of opptression that were designed by White Europeans purely to maintain their privilege by oppressing and exploiting Blacks and other people of colour (SERIOUSLY). Finally, CRT/WOKENESS does not believe in rational argument/debate as a means to solve problems, and therefore refuses to discuss any criticism of its ideology (SERIOUSLY)


Dachshund
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Then they are using the wrong word when they say "woke".
 
Yakuda said:
What I am attempting to ascertain form him is how does a system that is tilted against black people , as I think he is suggesting, result in a black president and blacks in positions of power all across the nation?
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Overwhelming voter turnout out


Too much for the systematic racist election cheating the Republican Party has created
 
T. A. Gardner said:
You should learn to ensure you know what a word or term means before using it...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke
(as starters)

Woke, or Wokeness is just shorthand for having a radical Leftist mindset on a number of Leftist causes. It is a way of saying you are a good little Leftist that follows dogma.
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Whatever if you dont understand discussion, no wonder you are in the place you are in. People have slightly different definitions in their heads for different uses, that is why discussion is necessary and why dictionaries are updated.
 
Jarod said:
I hear Trumppers complaining about people they call “Woke”.

The way I understand it, if a person tries to be aware of others, their needs and feelings, and tries to behave in a considerate way toward others, they are “Woke”.

Somehow that’s an insult?
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Trump people are immoral scumbags. We know what they believe.
 
Jarod said:
Whatever if you dont understand discussion, no wonder you are in the place you are in. People have slightly different definitions in their heads for different uses, that is why discussion is necessary and why dictionaries are updated.
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I looked it up in the Oxford, Cambridge, and Webster's dictionaries but took the combination definition from Wiki instead. It all amounts to what I stated. If you can't offer actual rebuttal to that, it is you that needs to understand the discussion better.
 
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