Where Do Confederate Monuments Go After They Come Down?

You can quit responding as I have no desire to debate closed minded clowns who can not accept the fact that In the 1800's slavery was the norm and this country was no better nor worse than the rest of the world.

Well that's 100% wrong and ignorant because by the 1860's, most European nations had already outlawed slavery.

So here you are, talking out of your ass again.
 
Removing statues of people who were part of that evil is nothing more than an attempt by you liberals to hide the horrors of slavery and feel like you have somehow atoned for a great injustice

Removing monuments that glorified traitors who fought to preserve slavery hides the horrors of slavery, how?
 
. Well I hate to tell you that accomplishing noting history is history and needs to be remembered. Guess you've never heard of misplaced aggression.

So you can't remember history via books, the internet, movies, or TV?

You're saying you need a statue to a Confederate traitor because otherwise, you'll forget about slavery.
 
You can quit responding as I have no desire to debate closed minded clowns who can not accept the fact that In the 1800's slavery was the norm and this country was no better nor worse than the rest of the world. The Civil war was fought partly over slavery and right won out over wrong. Removing statues of people who were part of that evil is nothing more than an attempt by you liberals to hide the horrors of slavery and feel like you have somehow atoned for a great injustice. Well I hate to tell you that accomplishing noting history is history and needs to be remembered. Guess you've never heard of misplaced aggression.

So let's recap this shit post from a racist moron:

1. Slavery was not "the norm" in the world, because by 1860 the European nations had outlawed slavery and had for decades. So you start your post off with a false statement.
2. The Civil War wasn't fought "partly" over slavery, it was simply fought over slavery. That's what all the seceding states wrote in their articles of Confederation.
3. The statues glorify, not demonize the Confederates. And if you're saying you need statues to remember the history of slavery, why do those statues have to be of Confederates who fought to preserve slavery?
4. How exactly do the monuments to Confederate traitors help us remember slavery, anyway? None of those monuments make any mention of slavery; they are just monuments to people who fought to preserve it.

So much wrong with your post.
 
So you need the statues because without them, you cannot remember that the Confederates fought the United States because of slavery and lost?

So you want them down because you're such a pussy that looking at a piece of metal causes you to melt?
 
LV started out yesterday by claiming the statues @ Gettysburg have to go because they are intimidating to black people. Then we get about 100 posts about libraries and forgetting who won and who lost.
 
Monuments and statues for Confederate soldiers are really no different than monuments and statues for Union soldiers. Both are simply meant to commemorate their sacrifice and help preserve their memory. There are millions of Americans that had past relatives who fought in the Civil War for both sides and millions who have no family connection to either side. On my dads side of the family I had a relative that fought for the Confederacy for Louisiana. We actually stopped at the cemetery in Delcambre, Louisiana where he is buried on a road trip once and went to his grave. It was surreal knowing that I was related to him and that if he would have died in the war I wouldn’t be here today. He wasnt a slave owner, most soldiers weren’t, and was dirt poor. When I was in Nashville a couple of years ago I went to a really pretty Confederate cemetery in Franklin, Tennessee and it was a similar experience. These were real people and most were just fighting to preserve their home or because they had to. I’ve been to Gettysburg too and the monuments there are great since it helps you understand better of where the soldiers were at during parts of the battle. It helps make the history stand out in my opinion and makes it more real than just having monuments for the Union. It was also cool to see the monument for the Texas regiments and where they were situated on the battlefield and where Pickett’s charge took place. It’s cool history. When I see a confederate monument or drive on a road named after a general to me it’s just a piece of and a reminder of American history. That being said if a local community decides to remove a statue or change the name of a street then I’m fine with that too, but just make sure the history is still protected in some way for future generations.
 
Monuments and statues for Confederate soldiers are really no different than monuments and statues for Union soldiers. Both are simply meant to commemorate their sacrifice and help preserve their memory. There are millions of Americans that had past relatives who fought in the Civil War for both sides and millions who have no family connection to either side. On my dads side of the family I had a relative that fought for the Confederacy for Louisiana. We actually stopped at the cemetery in Delcambre, Louisiana where he is buried on a road trip once and went to his grave. It was surreal knowing that I was related to him and that if he would have died in the war I wouldn’t be here today. He wasnt a slave owner, most soldiers weren’t, and was dirt poor. When I was in Nashville a couple of years ago I went to a really pretty Confederate cemetery in Franklin, Tennessee and it was a similar experience. These were real people and most were just fighting to preserve their home or because they had to. I’ve been to Gettysburg too and the monuments there are great since it helps you understand better of where the soldiers were at during parts of the battle. It helps make the history stand out in my opinion and makes it more real than just having monuments for the Union. It was also cool to see the monument for the Texas regiments and where they were situated on the battlefield and where Pickett’s charge took place. It’s cool history. When I see a confederate monument or drive on a road named after a general to me it’s just a piece of and a reminder of American history. That being said if a local community decides to remove a statue or change the name of a street then I’m fine with that too, but just make sure the history is still protected in some way for future generations.

Great post. I hope the social justice warriors won't get around to wanting those headstones smashed because they are mini-memorials.
 
LV started out yesterday by claiming the statues @ Gettysburg have to go because they are intimidating to black people. Then we get about 100 posts about libraries and forgetting who won and who lost.

Didn't he also mention Germany? Seems Germany also has monuments to their WWII soldiers as well.

http://www.thirdreichruins.com/memorials.htm

That was a war where Germany killed millions of their own citizens for no reason.
The U.S. Civil war was between Americans alone. The South wanted to divide the country, the North wanted to keep it together.
Liberals seem to be the "South" of today considering their political leanings and thoughts of dividing the country.
 
So you want them down because you're such a pussy that looking at a piece of metal causes you to melt?

I want them down because they glorify traitors and serve as monuments to your shitty racism.

But you're the one who argued we need them up because otherwise, you won't be able to remember who lost the Civil War.
 
LV started out yesterday by claiming the statues @ Gettysburg have to go because they are intimidating to black people. Then we get about 100 posts about libraries and forgetting who won and who lost.

Whether or not they are successful at intimidating black people isn't the point; the point is that they were constructed with that purpose and intent.

You've been arguing that we need the monuments up in order to "remember history". Which means without them, you will not remember history. So that's your position; monuments to traitors should stand because otherwise you will forget that they were traitors and lost.
 
Monuments and statues for Confederate soldiers are really no different than monuments and statues for Union soldiers. Both are simply meant to commemorate their sacrifice and help preserve their memory.

Why should we preserve the memory of traitors who lost?


There are millions of Americans that had past relatives who fought in the Civil War for both sides and millions who have no family connection to either side.

So these people will be affected by removing monuments to traitors, how?


These were real people and most were just fighting to preserve their home or because they had to.

They knew exactly what they were fighting for. It had nothing to do with their homes, and everything to do with subjugating black people. They didn't have to fight; they chose to fight. So why should we honor anyone who made that poor choice and then ended up losing?
 
Whether or not they are successful at intimidating black people isn't the point; the point is that they were constructed with that purpose and intent.

You've been arguing that we need the monuments up in order to "remember history". Which means without them, you will not remember history. So that's your position; monuments to traitors should stand because otherwise you will forget that they were traitors and lost.

Gettysburg is an historical site. One has to go out of his/her way to get there. It is not the same as a "confederate" statue is in a public square in that people pass every day.
 
How do you know that a bunch of uneducated farmers had a choice? Look how ill-informed most Americans are now.

How many of those heroic Union soldiers were drafted? All wars are bankers wars.
 
Gettysburg is an historical site. One has to go out of his/her way to get there. It is not the same as a "confederate" statue is in a public square in that people pass every day.

So what? What difference does that make? Why is it so important we have monuments to traitors and losers, even at Gettysburg? Are you going to forget who lost the battle unless there are statues there?
 
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