Why Do Conservatives Hate Immigrants So Much?

Celticguy said:
Americans have an issue with illegal aliens because we respect the rule of law.
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That is unless, of course, that it is Donald Trump who is breaking the law!

In that case, FUCK THE LAW! Right?

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Well why the need for CONservatives to embrace tRump and his illegal immigrant family, anchor babies and in laws? Also, I disagree because your Russian puppet and atrocity tRump despises all immigrants including legal immigrants. I swear, one must not mind kissing tRump's ass with a jack pot of his sh!t as the prize.

Trump Bet Conservatives Wouldn't Denounce His Racist Ad. He Won.
The president knows he can get away with bigotry.

In the Trump era, when every day brings fresh insanity, looking back is hard. But it’s worth remembering what Donald Trump did in the final days before Tuesday’s midterm elections. It’s worth remembering because it’s a template for what he may do in 2020. And for how mainstream conservatives will respond.

According to CNN, Republican officials wanted to close the campaign with an upbeat “Morning in America”–style commercial touting the country’s strong economy. Trump disagreed. He demanded that Republicans end by demonizing immigrants. On October 31—six days before the midterms and four days after a man enraged by Jewish support for the immigrant caravan murdered 11 people in Pittsburgh—Trump tweeted out an ad about the caravan. When Paul Ryan called him the Sunday before Election Day to implore him to talk about the economy, Trump instead boasted that his focus on immigration was rousing the GOP base."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/a...ns-are-denial-about-trumps-caravan-ad/575326/
 
Hello StoneByStone,

StoneByStone said:
Sure, but multiracialism has plenty of problems, even if the immigrants we're getting are working and paying taxes.
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Those are the kinds of problems we as a nation, WANT to have. Figuring out how to blend a wealth of multicultural and multiracial diversity.

As far as a nation is concerned, that is like counting up the assets.
 
Hello gfm7175,

gfm7175 said:
Coal, Oil, and Natural gas are all quite cheap for how much energy they produce, and are much more versatile in their use. Wind doesn't even hold a candle to them.
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Coal is already more expensive than solar. Unlimited clean energy is getting cheaper and cheaper as dirty fossil fuels become increasingly expensive.
 
Celticguy said:
Its possible and we are closer to the scenario that would enable it than at any time before. They have gotten sloppy and stupid and made mistakes. These can be used to shift tjis paradigm.
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I've been searching for a solution to the big money in government problem for a very long time, wracking my mind over it. I was looking for a shortcut to the process which has already worked for some other problems which plagued our nation. Civil rights, Gay rights, allowing women to vote, etc. All of those things began with local changes, then State level law changes, then more States, then eventually groundswell pressure was placed on the federal level to make changes and it became a defining movement. That is the tipping point which leads to Federal Change.

Watch this 12 minute video. Makes total sense.


Even as we speak, the same process is occurring with the legalization of Marijuana. Right before our eyes.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello gfm7175,

Coal is already more expensive than solar. Unlimited clean energy is getting cheaper and cheaper as dirty fossil fuels become increasingly expensive.
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No, it's not. If it was, then everybody would be using solar instead. Solar has to be heavily subsidized in order to make it even semi-competitive...
 
Good morning gfm7175,

gfm7175 said:
No, it's not. If it was, [solar cheaper than coal] then everybody would be using solar instead.
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Give it time. Change doesn't come instantly. And there is strong resistance and denial to be overcome.

gfm7175 said:
Solar has to be heavily subsidized in order to make it even semi-competitive...
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Coal is dirty and unsustainable. But it is in place. That is the only thing keeping coal going. There is a reason no new coal plants are being built.
 
Hello anonymoose,

anonymoose said:
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Now if they happen to be from Somalia I will take an extra hard look at their credentials.
I've had to deal with Somalis and they are not very pleasant folks. Even other Africans I've encountered do not like Somalis.

Same with Samoans especially when it comes to payment for services. I have them pay up front. I get burned virtually every time by them when I don't have them pay beforhand.
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I appreciate your consideration for people but would caution against stereotypes. Business policy should ideally be general and apply equally. Prejudice is a recipe for problems.
 
Hello StoneByStone,

StoneByStone said:
Who refuses to? Which people from which culture said they refuse to become American?

I would say the answer is all non-white peoples, since non-white people never become American. But if this isn't about race, then what is it about?
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People. That's what it is about.

Racism is over-simplification.

The world is more complex than racists assume.

There are good people of all races, and bad as well.
 
Hello anonymoose,

anonymoose said:
It appears that way.
I think he does but I have to support him in spite of that. He wants to enforce existing immigration laws and he has a plan for Dreamers. There are virtually no republicans that have a spine and dims are for open borders, although they don't come right out and say that. Well, some, uh many, do. E.g., California dims.
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You should have more respect for your fellow Americans.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello anonymoose,



I appreciate your consideration for people but would caution against stereotypes. Business policy should ideally be general and apply equally. Prejudice is a recipe for problems.
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Ideally, but I know from experience. Not learning from experience is a recipe for problems. I've been in business long enough that mine runs like a well oiled machine.
 
Hello anonymoose,

anonymoose said:
Race and illegal immigrants are two completely different things to me. I already stated how my wife is German and we had to jump thru a lot of hoops for her to get her permanent visa. We had to hire a lawyer. We had to have an interview with INS showing letters, photos, emails sent to each other, etc. just to prove we had a relationship and that I wasn't marrying her only to get her in the country. If my wife doesn't renew her visa her employer sends her home without pay until she gets it validated. This actually happened once when she forgot to renew it. (she's still a German citizen.)
Yet you think it's OK for basket weavers to jump the border or flood the border with their kids and they can stay to collect Medicaid, SNAP and subsidized housing.
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Why hold back? You resent anybody who utilizes those assistance programs, right? The poor have nobody to blame but themselves, right?

anonymoose said:
You assumed wrong. It's about the rule of law . And our immigration laws are no more strict than most if not all other industrialized countries.
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Yes, but most other industrialized nations don't have destructive policy which creates their own immigration problems. Why can't we deal with the source of the problem instead of the symptoms? We can't legislate our way around reality.
 
Hello StoneByStone,

StoneByStone said:
It's not that I think illegal immigration is ok, it's that if the illegals were white, it wouldn't be that big of a deal to me. If anything, I think your story shows that our immigration laws are way too strict for white immigrants.
I prefer legal immigration, but if some white immigrants came here illegally, eh. It's a deal, but not a big deal.

Now if you don't care about race, why are you so against illegal immigration? Why not be in favor of making legal immigration easier?
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Our nation's forefathers came here without following immigration law. If they didn't do that, there would be no USA.
 
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