Why Most Republicans Don’t Like Higher Education

domer76 said:
You validated my claim and showed RB the liar that he is.
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It also validated my claim that math, science, business and engineering are more conservative than other fields. That is only if we are examining scientists in universities. Outside of academia it is more balanced. For example, only 25% of the members of corporate boards are Democrats. Also, today most students attend middle-level state universities and community colleges which tend to be less liberal (partly due to a higher percentage of older adults).
 
iolo said:
The 'choice' under capitalism, is total fantasy, as you know. You can work for capitalists, become a capitalist, or starve.
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And in a socialist society the government steals some of the wealth produced by the workers and the workers also have to work for the state or starve. The only difference is the capitalist bosses call it profit and the socialist bosses call it taxes--but the bosses still get more under both systems.

What keeps the workers from joining together and producing these things themselves?
 
Flash said:
Republicans don't major in sociology. That is one of the most liberal fields.
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The "implication" was Republicans don't attend college....thus, a republican majors in real life at the school of hard knocks. The entire thread was started by a social communist liberal as a false premise....that education somehow equals intelligence. Hell you can educate a monkey.

Reality: What the thread actually demonstrates is the Narcissistic personality that is required to assume that you are the smartest person in the room.....apparently a prerequisite to think of yourself as an enlightened progressive.

ELITIST: Clearly all democrats are elitists and do not believe in this self governing democratic republic...but endorse rule by those who think themselves ELITE.

Does one have to wonder why the blue collar workers of America have told the DNC to go to hell? Clearly...according to this thread, DEPLORABLE is still in vogue. :bigthink:
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Part Multi 313,



You can say anything. Words are cheap. That doesn't make them true. I noticed you appear to believe that redistributing wealth is the same as destroying it. As if that wealth is never to be seen again.

Not true.

Actually, what happens when wealth is redistributed from the super-wealth and to the poor it's not like the poor just get this wealth and then sit on it as if that wealth vanished. No. The money is not thrown in a pile and lit on fire. It is not destroyed. Not at all.

Actually, what happens is nearly every cent of it is pretty much immediately spent on products and services offered by the wealthy. Why, what this represents is demand. It's business. It's customers for local businesses and also for big corporations. Every dollar cycled through the social programs to help the disadvantaged pretty much goes right back into circulation creating demand for businesses which then create jobs and hire. And they generate profits and pay taxes. It generates new revenue to help control the federal debt, which, by the way, under Republican policy is growing too rapidly.

A dollar spent on social programs is spent and respent at least six times, generating demand, jobs and revenue. Goes right into the active economy. It adds $6 to the GDP. That's a far cry better than letting it ride on some Wall Street investments which is all the rich are going to do with it.
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No, a dollar spent on social programs is mostly going to the bureaucrats running the social program. Only a small amount actually gets to any beneficiary of the program. Real charities exist out there that are far better at helping the poor and destitute than anything the government is doing.
 
Part Multi 313 said:
Anyone can use capitalism. Take China\Hong Kong for example. Billionaires make fortunes in Hong Kong without the oppressive liquidizers micromanaging their growth while the rest of their nation starves in olive drab. Is this making sense to you?
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Hong Kong works because the Chinese government stays out of the way. They know Hong Kong is the goose laying the golden eggs.
 
PoliTalker said:
Everybody knows the real reason is they're cheap. They don't want to pay for anything.

They want America to be great, and they think we can build this great nation for free without having to pay any more taxes.
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Yet, they got more taxes and spent more:

Fiscal Year Revenues 2017: $3,314.9
Fiscal Year Revenues 2018: $3328.7

Fiscal Year Outlays 2017: $3980.7
Fiscal Year Outlays 2018: $4107.7

https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/reports-statements/combined-statement/
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Part Multi 313,



You can say anything. Words are cheap. That doesn't make them true. I noticed you appear to believe that redistributing wealth is the same as destroying it. As if that wealth is never to be seen again.

Not true.
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How can you "appear to believe" something? Is that like showing up to a church on sunday? Please explain to me at exactly what point that it was that I appeared to believe what you said? Truth is I don't believe that redistributing wealth destroys it and what you are describing would cause inflation and is exactly what happens when third world banks go belly up when their regimes topple the wealthy dictator and liquidize their assets... huge inflation!
 
Dark Soul said:
How does the "capitalist", who risks his capital to build a factory and employ labor, "steal" from labor?

By building the factory, purchasing and installing the machinery, and paying the taxes and utilities to run the building, labor is able to produce goods at a fraction of the labor time, and at better quality, then the labor could do by hand. Therefore the price of the goods plummets and common folk can purchase it at a far more reasonable cost.

Who in this picture is getting ripped off?
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I've never seen a capitalist build a factory - they must work in the dark! They must be very strong to install the machinery on their own too. These things are produced by workers working. The thieves just spend some of their thievings on crappy propaganda, obviously. We could do it all in a tiny proportion of the time and provide everything free without these crooks interfering.
 
Into the Night said:
There is no such thing as 'state capitalism'. Capitalism requires no government. It is the only economic system that creates wealth. Socialism can only exist by stealing wealth, and requires dictatorships or oligarchies to implement it.
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In state capitalism the state becomes a big firm on the world market, such as was the USSR. Without its government to shoot people down capitalism wouldn't last five minutes, obviously. You were brainwashed as a result of McCarthy and know nothing about the matter, I'm afraid.
 
Into the Night said:
WRONG. Socialism is theft of wealth. It can ONLY be implemented by dictatorships and oligarchies. That is government, dude.
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Socialism is control of society by those who produce the wealth, on behalf of oppressed humanity. It is established by taking power away from the thieves.
 
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