Will Queers still be allowed to 'Marry' ?

Will Queers still be allowed to 'Marry' ?

  • Yes. Many Christians are Queer.

    Votes: 3 50.0%

  • No. Queers are an abomination. (it's in the Bible)

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • It has to be called something else. (Parriage, Civil Union)

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • Total voters
    6
  • Poll closed .
Jack said:
Pretty sure Christians aren't going to condone 2 guys butt-fucking each other. (anybody really think Mayor Pete had a chance at being President)
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The gays will probably be safe until things get bad enough that the Right needs to use them as a scapegoat again.
 
Chaz said:
I prefer to scapegoat Marxists, because, they deserve anything bad that happens to them.
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Scapegoating anyone is basic.
And Marxists aren't bad people like Fascists, they're just wrong. Collective ownership is a bad idea, but I wouldn't say it's immoral.
 
Legion said:
When did that happen?
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It has happened a lot throughout Western history. The most recent example in America was probably when Bush was running for reelection. He relied completely on the culture war with the two main issues being abortion and gay marriage.
Looking back it's kinda funny, since that would never work today. Today's Moderates are pro-choice and support gay rights.
 
StoneByStone said:
It has happened a lot throughout Western history. The most recent example in America was probably when Bush was running for reelection. He relied completely on the culture war with the two main issues being abortion and gay marriage.
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Then you should be able to cite numerous examples with provenance.

Why are you limiting your ambiguous claim to "Western history"?

StoneByStone said:
The most recent example in America was probably when Bush was running for reelection. He relied completely on the culture war with the two main issues being abortion and gay marriage.
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"Probably"?
 
Chaz said:
The right to property is a natural right. It shouldn't be a mystery to people who live in America.

In Communist societies, you don't actually get to own anything for yourself.
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Looting is justified, according to some folks.

 
Chaz said:
The right to property is a natural right. It shouldn't be a mystery to people who live in America.
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So this is a big misconception. Socialists believe in personal property, they don't believe in private property. Personal property is the things you own, while private property is the means of production.
So in a Socialist society, I can't just walk into your house and leave with your TV. However, if you own a business and hire me, I now own part of that business.
 
StoneByStone said:
So this is a big misconception. Socialists believe in personal property, they don't believe in private property. Personal property is the things you own, while private property is the means of production.
So in a Socialist society, I can't just walk into your house and leave with your TV. However, if you own a business and hire me, I now own part of that business.
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There is no such difference, so, socialists are full of shit as per always. In practice, however, socialists have been bad at actually respecting the faux difference.
 
Legion said:
Why are you limiting your ambiguous claim to "Western history"?
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Because in countries outside of the West, homophobia is a lot more common. It's just in the West that we've mostly moved past it, though the establishment will still use it as a political tool here and there.

"Probably"?
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Well it's possible there is a more recent example. But off the top of my head, the most recent one was Bush's reelection.
 
Jack said:
New Christian Conservative SC Court and their views on Queers.
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Doesn't matter. They still have to rule based upon the Constitution. Dred Scott was a mistake that won't be repeated meaning SCOTUS won't remove freedoms. Besides, it's a 14th Amendment issue.
 
Chaz said:
There is no such difference, so, socialists are full of shit as per always. In practice, however, socialists have been bad at actually respecting the faux difference.
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That's a huge difference! Socialists believe people should be allowed to own property, just not the means of production. You were saying that Socialists don't want people owning any property.
 
StoneByStone said:
Because in countries outside of the West, homophobia is a lot more common. It's just in the West that we've mostly moved past it, though the establishment will still use it as a political tool here and there. Well it's possible there is a more recent example. But off the top of my head, the most recent one was Bush's reelection.
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So you give the histories of Islamic, African, and Asian societies a pass because their "homophobia is a lot more common"?

And you have no verifiable examples of something you claimed "has happened a lot throughout Western history", apparently

StoneByStone said:
It has happened a lot throughout Western history. The most recent example in America was probably when Bush was running for reelection. He relied completely on the culture war with the two main issues being abortion and gay marriage.
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Let's see your proof that "Bush relied completely on the culture war with the two main issues being abortion and gay marriage."
 
Legion said:
So you give the histories of Islamic, African, and Asian societies a pass because their :"homophobia is a lot more common"?
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Oh, FFS! I'm not giving them a pass, snowflake. I'm saying that homophobia doesn't reemerge in those societies for political reasons because it's always there.

And you have no verifiable examples of something you claimed "has happened a lot throughout Western history", apparently
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Did I not give you the Bush example?

Let's see your proof that "Bush relied completely on the culture war with the two main issues being abortion and gay marriage."
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:laugh:

Did you not live through this period? I'm positive that you're older than me.
https://www.cato.org/blog/did-gay-marriage-bans-help-bush-win-2004
 
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