Zelensky bans 11 opposition political parties

dukkha said:
leven Ukrainian political parties have been suspended because of their links with Russia, according to the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

The country’s national security and defence council took the decision to ban the parties from any political activity. Most of the parties affected were small, but one of them, the Opposition Platform for Life, has 44 seats in the 450-seat Ukrainian parliament.

“The activities of those politicians aimed at division or collusion will not succeed, but will receive a harsh response,” Zelenskiy said, in a video address on Sunday.

“Therefore, the national security and defence council decided, given the full-scale war unleashed by Russia, and the political ties that a number of political structures have with this state, to suspend any activity of a number of political parties for the period of martial law,” the Ukrainian leader added.

The Opposition Platform for Life, Ukraine’s biggest opposition party, is led by Viktor Medvedchuk, a pro-Moscow oligarch with close ties to the Russian president, Vladimir Putin. Party officials later said the suspension “had no legal basis”.

The political move comes as Zelenskiy aims to further assert his influence over the country’s media sphere. On Sunday, the Ukrainian leader signed a decree that aims to unite all national TV channels into one platform, citing the importance of a “unified information policy” under martial law.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nds-11-political-parties-with-links-to-russia
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I'm not sure this is a very good move at the present time. I don't understand the purpose of doing this other than quash all opposition. :dunno:
 
BartenderElite said:
That's a really reasoned position, TD.

I don't think anyone here fully understands the politics of the Ukraine & the nature of this action. It's a knee-jerk to characterize it as a power grab or dictatorial move.
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Yeah just odd to accuse Zelensky of a power grab in the middle of a war.

BTW, Opposition Platform – For Life website is still up. So I don't see any "ban" or "suspension".

Suspension of the “Opposition Platform – For Life” activity during the martial law period is unlawful political raiding by the ruling party and reprisal against democracy in Ukraine

https://zagittya.com.ua/en/news/zajavlenija/priostanovka_dejatelnosti_oplzzh_na_period_voennogo_polozhenija_l_protivozakonnoe_politicheskoe_rejderstvo_partii_vlasti_i_rasprava_nad_demokratiej_v_ukraine.html
 
AProudLefty said:
Yeah just odd to accuse Zelensky of a power grab in the middle of a war.

BTW, Opposition Platform – For Life website is still up. So I don't see any "ban" or "suspension".

Suspension of the “Opposition Platform – For Life” activity during the martial law period is unlawful political raiding by the ruling party and reprisal against democracy in Ukraine

https://zagittya.com.ua/en/news/zaj...sti_i_rasprava_nad_demokratiej_v_ukraine.html
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I mean, most here don't even know the nature & activity of our own political parties (past the top 2). If Zelensky & others think that a party's ties to Russia or even just their activities could compromise their security in any way, this isn't any kind of outrageous action. This is a country in the middle of extreme circumstances.
 
BartenderElite said:
I mean, most here don't even know the nature & activity of our own political parties (past the top 2). If Zelensky & others think that a party's ties to Russia or even just their activities could compromise their security in any way, this isn't any kind of outrageous action. This is a country in the middle of extreme circumstances.
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Right I know what you meant. Not a good time to point fingers. The main aggressor is Putin.
 
After Russia started its war against Ukraine in 2014 and occupied parts of eastern Ukraine, the country lost access to its main coal-mining areas. Ukraine depends on coal for energy production.

In 2014, Poroshenko, then a newly-elected president, publicly supported buying coal from Russian-occupied areas instead of the alternative – the coal coming from South Africa.

State-owned energy company Centrenergo was supposed to pay for the coal to companies registered in Ukrainian-controlled territory through bank branches in the Ukrainian-held part of the Donbas. This was intended to guarantee that the supplies did not violate Ukrainian law – that the payment didn’t go to the Russian proxies, which would be classified as financing terrorism.

From this point on, the versions told by Poroshenko and the investigators get different.

awyers interviewed by the Kyiv Independent agreed that everything depends on whether investigators and prosecutors would present concrete evidence to support their claims.

The charges brought against Poroshenko refer to secret negotiations involving the ex-president’s alleged treason, but no proof of such negotiations is publicly available, said Olga Veretilnyk, a lawyer at a Kyiv-based law firm Miller. These charges don’t specify what kind of collusion took place and how exactly.

“If there is no proof of secret negotiations, the charges are unfounded,” she added.

Since the case is often criticized as being politically motivated, the prosecutors should have presented bullet-proof evidence from the beginning to dispel doubts, argued Miller’s founder Masi Nayyem. If they had solid proof, they would have presented it already, he said.
https://kyivindependent.com/nationa...reason-case-justice-or-political-persecution/
 
BartenderElite said:
That's a really reasoned position, TD.

I don't think anyone here fully understands the politics of the Ukraine & the nature of this action. It's a knee-jerk to characterize it as a power grab or dictatorial move.
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:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2: - not a fucking clue but you yammer away.
Here's a remedial since you are too fucking LZ to do any research -
see any patterns of corruption?? :rolleyes:


Recall I mention "Investigations/indictments/jailings are common practice"

1. The Euromaidan went a step further - due to US meddling - and became a full ouster of Yanukovych by Poroshenko.

2. What did Yanukovych do when he took power?
he jailed of ex-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko


3. How about Poroshenko?

https://kyivindependent.com/nationa...reason-case-justice-or-political-persecution/
Poroshenko, who served as president from 2014 - 2019, has faced several investigations in recent years

December, 2021 (under Zelensky) the State Investigation Bureau charged Poroshenko with high treason for allegedly aiding Russian-controlled militants in the occupied Donbas. He is accused of organizing the supplies of coal from Russian-occupied areas to Ukrainian firms in 2014-2015. If found guilty, he is facing 10 to 15 years in prison.
 
Truth Detector said:
I'm not sure this is a very good move at the present time. I don't understand the purpose of doing this other than quash all opposition. :dunno:
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it's typical Uk politics. Zelensky was elected on a platform of no corruption,indicts his predecessor and shuts down opposition, who succeeded one thrown out of office, who jailed the previous one

during the Trump impeachment i was screaming "stay out of Uk' it's a corrupt society, and NATO expansion is going to lead to Russia push back ( although I didnt foresee a full scale invasion - just Donbas)

we have dicked around and used it as a pawn in a proxy war before even the Euromaidan (2014)
against Russia..and here we are
 
dukkha said:
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2: - not a fucking clue but you yammer away.
Here's a remedial since you are too fucking LZ to do any research -
see any patterns of corruption?? :rolleyes:


Recall I mention "Investigations/indictments/jailings are common practice"

1. The Euromaidan went a step further - due to US meddling - and became a full ouster of Yanukovych by Poroshenko.

2. What did Yanukovych do when he took power?
he jailed of ex-Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko


3. How about Poroshenko?

https://kyivindependent.com/nationa...reason-case-justice-or-political-persecution/
Poroshenko, who served as president from 2014 - 2019, has faced several investigations in recent years

December, 2021 (under Zelensky) the State Investigation Bureau charged Poroshenko with high treason for allegedly aiding Russian-controlled militants in the occupied Donbas. He is accused of organizing the supplies of coal from Russian-occupied areas to Ukrainian firms in 2014-2015. If found guilty, he is facing 10 to 15 years in prison.
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You've been saying for years that Putin was no threat. Now, you're trying to save face by overplaying what Zelensky is doing.

Have you EVER been right about Russia, or about the Ukraine? Even once?
 
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