Alec Baldwin Fired Prop Gun That Killed Halyna Hutchins, Injured Director

Hawkeye10 said:
The AD out ranks the armorer with gun safety on set....however the apparent fact that the armorer was not present is a Big Fucking Problem.
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FAT ASS HELD THE GUN, POINTED IT AT SOMEONE FOR NO FUCKING REASON, AND PULLED THE TRIGGER. PERIOD.


HIS INTENT IS IRRELEVANT, UNLESS THEY SEEK MURDER CHARGES.



HE IS GUILTY OF RECKLESS HOMICIDE.


HE WAS RECKLESS WITH A FIREARM, AND KILLED SOMEONE WITH IT. LET'S SEE IF THE LEFTIDIOTS ENFORCE THE LAW AGAINST ONE OF THEIR OWN....
 
ExpressLane said:
So you think the gun discharged without him pulling the trigger? You think the bullet curved to her location. Guns are designed to discharge when the trigger is pulled. Guns are also designed to hit the target that they are aimed at. The real question is do you think Baldwin intended to discharge a live round at her. No I do not. But I do think he certainly aimed at her and pulled the trigger. He likely expected to discharge a blank.
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He was rehearsing. He did not expect it to discharge with a real bullet.

It's quite simple.

So you agree that he isn't responsible for it?
 
ExpressLane said:
So you think the gun discharged without him pulling the trigger? You think the bullet curved to her location. Guns are designed to discharge when the trigger is pulled. Guns are also designed to hit the target that they are aimed at. The real question is do you think Baldwin intended to discharge a live round at her. No I do not. But I do think he certainly aimed at her and pulled the trigger. He likely expected to discharge a blank.
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It is possible it was a single action pistol. That means the hammer might have been half cocked or fully cocked before it discharged. A accidental discharge is more likely if the gun was already cocked. We also don't know if the pistol had a safety on it.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It is possible it was a single action pistol. That means the hammer might have been half cocked or fully cocked before it discharged. A accidental discharge is more likely if the gun was already cocked. We also don't know if the pistol had a safety on it.
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Exactly.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
It is possible it was a single action pistol. That means the hammer might have been half cocked or fully cocked before it discharged. A accidental discharge is more likely if the gun was already cocked. We also don't know if the pistol had a safety on it.
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If it was an early western its highly likely it was a revolver and had no safety.
 
ExpressLane said:
If it was an early western its highly likely it was a revolver and had no safety.
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The safety on early single-action pistols, muskets, and rifles is the half-cock. When the weapon is half cocked, it cannot be fired. The hammer has to be fully cocked before it can fire. If the hammer is in the down position, it must be manually cocked to fire. A trigger pull won't do it. Only double action pistols and rifles will fire from the down position on a trigger pull.
 
Grokmaster said:
FAT ASS HELD THE GUN, POINTED IT AT SOMEONE FOR NO FUCKING REASON, AND PULLED THE TRIGGER. PERIOD.


HIS INTENT IS IRRELEVANT, UNLESS THEY SEEK MURDER CHARGES.



HE IS GUILTY OF RECKLESS HOMICIDE.


HE WAS RECKLESS WITH A FIREARM, AND KILLED SOMEONE WITH IT. LET'S SEE IF THE LEFTIDIOTS ENFORCE THE LAW AGAINST ONE OF THEIR OWN....
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You are lost.
 
I hope Baldwin gets sued for millions of dollars and goes to jail.

He is a hypocrite, crying about guns and at the same time making millions in his movies glorifying violence with guns.
 
Earl said:
I hope Baldwin gets sued for millions of dollars and goes to jail.

He is a hypocrite, crying about guns and at the same time making millions in his movies glorifying violence with guns.
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Stop being stupid. The production company will be sued and they'll settle.

I doubt he'll see one day in jail.
 
Grokmaster said:
FAT ASS HELD THE GUN, POINTED IT AT SOMEONE FOR NO FUCKING REASON, AND PULLED THE TRIGGER. PERIOD.


HIS INTENT IS IRRELEVANT, UNLESS THEY SEEK MURDER CHARGES.



HE IS GUILTY OF RECKLESS HOMICIDE.


HE WAS RECKLESS WITH A FIREARM, AND KILLED SOMEONE WITH IT. LET'S SEE IF THE LEFTIDIOTS ENFORCE THE LAW AGAINST ONE OF THEIR OWN....
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Yes, correct.

He faces big time exposure for wrongful death.
 
Negligent homicide refers to the killing of another person through reckless or negligent behavior. It differs from other forms of homicide due to the implied lack of malice and intent.
 
Reckless homicide refers to a situation where a person dies as a result of someone else’s reckless act (or failure to act).

It’s up to each state to decide how to handle reckless homicide cases and what the punishment should be. In California, reckless homicide cases are charged as involuntary manslaughter.

Involuntary manslaughter is a broadly written charge, which covers cases of both reckless homicide and negligent homicide. It is a felony in California, punishable by up to four years imprisonment and fines of up to $10,000.

Involuntary manslaughter in California
In order to convict someone of a crime, a prosecutor has to convince the members of the jury that certain facts of the case are true. These are known as the “elements of the crime.”

Involuntary manslaughter (Penal Code 192b PC) has three elements.

The defendant broke a California law that is not an inherently dangerous felony, or committed a lawful act in an unlawful manner.
The act involved “criminal negligence.”
The act caused someone else’s death.

In other words, involuntary manslaughter cases only apply when another law is broken. Simple, lawful accidents do not qualify as involuntary manslaughter. For example, these cases could qualify as involuntary manslaughter:

A person speeding through a school zone and killing a person in a crosswalk (speeding, failure to yield at a crosswalk)
During a fight, a person waves a pistol at another person, and the gun accidentally discharges and kills the other person (brandishing a firearm).

As well, the prosecutor must show that the defendant acted with “criminal negligence,” which is much more than simple carelessness:

The defendant acted in a reckless way that created a high risk of great bodily injury or death, and
A reasonable person would’ve known that acting in such a way would create that risk.




https://www.robertmhelfend.com/crim...cases are charged as involuntary manslaughter.
 
Celticguy said:
nope. rad the article. They NEVER point weapons at people, hardware etc. they use movie trickery for this as safety DEMANDS it.
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I owe you an apology.

Number one, always treat all weapons as if they are loaded — don’t treat them as props,” explains Carpenter, who has worked on such gun-heavy productions as Queen of the South, Power, Jack Reacher: Never Go Back, NCIS: New Orleans and Cloak & Dagger in addition to serving for 11 years as a professional instructor training agencies and stunt performers in how to handle firearms. “Number two, never have your finger on the trigger or pull the trigger until you’re ready to discharge the weapon. Number three, never point the weapon at anything that can be harmed or injured. And number four, always be aware of what’s in front, behind and on all sides of what you’re aiming for.”

Carpenter believes that if Nos. 1 and 3 had been followed on the New Mexico set of the indie Western Rust, “no one would’ve gotten hurt.”
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https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...ovie-munitions-experts-gun-safety-1235035713/
 
ExpressLane said:
He didn't check?? It was most likely a revolver and it isn't hard.
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AND IT WAS ON HIM TO DO SO....


SO HE WAS SUPPOSED TO SHOOT THE CINEMATOGRAPHER IN THAT SCENE???>


THE SHOOTER IS ALWAYS RESPOPNSIBLE FOR THE GUN IN HIS/HER HAND...



SEE HOW DESPERATELY THEY TRY TO CIRCLE TO WAGONS???
 
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