Dear CHRISTIANS-How will this marriage destroy traditional marriage?

[Ishmael Pequod]

LOL, via the 14th, which is why they should not be able to limit marriage and is the basis for the state law in question. Baking a cake is not a religious ritual or an establishment of religion.

The judge ordered them to bake the cake. Isn't that a violation of forced servitude?

 

[Ishmael Pequod]

What does the contract have to do with it? Is making a wedding cake an exercise of religion or not?

No one is forcing them to condone any marriage. Your arguments are worthless crap and will never succeed.

Gay marriage is their religious stand, not the cake.

 

[Ishmael Pequod]

What does the contract have to do with it? Is making a wedding cake an exercise of religion or not?

No one is forcing them to condone any marriage. Your arguments are worthless crap and will never succeed.

Wrong. Baking the cake for the wedding is an endorsement.

 

[Canceled.2014.2]

This sort of illogical non sequitur leaves no limit on government power.

Exactly!

 

[Canceled.2014.2]

You are retarded, half of french couple with kids aren't married.
They have 1/4 the murder rate we do! Fucking simpleton

Fucking simpleton would be correct!

 

[Timshel]

What the opposition thought regarding the Constitution as ratified may be interesting but basically meaningless. They lost the debate as surely as one who uses personal insults has.

I did not argue anywhere that the Anti Federalist papers were applicable.

You were arguing that the states are allowed to discriminate without any understanding of when and why they are allowed to do so. Constitutional law is the application of the constitution not its usurpation. Legislatures would have made the entire document meaningless without the courts standing in their way. You, like most, conservatives would love nothing more than that.

 

[Timshel]

Wrong. Baking the cake for the wedding is an endorsement.

So then they endorsed the dogs wedding?

 

[Canceled.2014.2]

Traditions change, especially those that discriminate, thank goodness we are evolving.

It was tradition that blacks had separate schools, restaurants and water fountains, but thankfully that was changed.

Hey, if we can reverse workers rights, we can reverse the gains made by African Americans... StormX and Ishmael Pequod may get their ideal white supremacist state yet!

 

[Ishmael Pequod]

So then they endorsed the dogs wedding?

So what!! The dogs were male and female. Let's look at the 13th amendment and involuntary servitude.

 

[Canceled.2014.2]

Sure it does, if marriage is defined as permanent, then its changed so that it can be absolved or ended, then it has changed.

Thank you for explaining astonishingly basic logic to him....

 

[Canceled.2014.2]

face it... the civil rights era changed the definition of marriage. the gay rights movement will do it again.

Yes it will. The cat is already out of the bag. No matter how much of a fight the right has put up, they have pretty much already lost this one.

 

[Canceled.2014.2]

just do some basic trend analysis and imagine where those numbers will be ten years from now.... just imagine how many MORE states will have legalized gay marriage by then. It's no longer a matter of "if", just "when".

As I said in another thread, the right has lost the younger generation on this. It is about as inevitable as the sun coming up in the morning.

 

[Canceled.2014.2]

Quickly running out of arguments, our sad little Homophobe resorts once again to the same insults and derision that prove how weak minded he truly is.

He has run out of insults also. He cuts and pastes the same insults, over and over. Amazing! Why put in the time on a political discussion board if your not going to think for yourself?

 

[Canceled.2014.2]

south of the mason dixon line, marriage used to be defined as the union of a man and a woman of the same race. It most certainly has changed. sorry.

Read up on Loving v. Virginia.... interesting stuff.

Don't you just love how some of these supreme court cases have interesting names....Loving vs. Virginia...the one on Sodomy IIRC was Georgia vs. Hardwick....

 

[MAGA MAN]

I did not argue anywhere that the Anti Federalist papers were applicable.

You were arguing that the states are allowed to discriminate without any understanding of when and why they are allowed to do so. Constitutional law is the application of the constitution not its usurpation. Legislatures would have made the entire document meaningless without the courts standing in their way. You, like most, conservatives would love nothing more than that.

Then why did you mention them?

And no, that is not my argument. Read what I wrote.

 

[Canceled.2014.2]

Sure it has, it can be dissolved much much more easily than it could be 100 years ago, and women have many many more rights than they had in marriage 100 years ago.

Which needs to be preserved-the right wants to undo women's rights as badly as it wants to ban gay marriage. I know of one conservative who wanted to repeal the amendment giving women the right to vote. I am sure he is not the only one.

 

[MAGA MAN]

As I said in another thread, the right has lost the younger generation on this. It is about as inevitable as the sun coming up in the morning.

The younger generation becomes the older generation. It is about as inevitable as the sun coming up in the morning...

 

[Canceled.2014.2]

Why not just say the thought of two guys having sex and getting married kills my boner? That's a more valid argument than anything posted in this thread so far.

To a large extent, yes, that is what this is about. You get a cigar, Mr Badguy.

 

[MAGA MAN]

Which needs to be preserved-the right wants to undo women's rights as badly as it wants to ban gay marriage. I know of one conservative who wanted to repeal the amendment giving women the right to vote. I am sure he is not the only one.

Woman's suffrage was a Republican initiative...

 

[maineman]

women's suffrage was a LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE initiative. Back in those long ago days, there were actually republicans who were liberal progressives. Ya tell the young kids that these days and they can't believe it! Same with civil rights.... it isn't at all important which political PARTY championed various landmark improvements in American society.... it is VERY important to understand which political PHILOSOPHY did.