Fact-opinion differentiation

[Dutch Uncle]

He did and so did Rice, most of the info Hillary passed was classified after the fact, a fact you continue to ignore.

“ After a years-long FBI investigation, it was determined that Clinton's server did not contain any information or emails that were clearly marked classified.[SUP][1][/SUP] Federal agencies did, however, retrospectively determine that 100 emails contained information that should have been deemed classified at the time they were sent, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret". An additional 2,093 emails were retroactively designated confidential by the State Department.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP][SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy

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IIRC, the investigation found that Hillary instructed people to strip the classification markings off documents being emailed. Comey identified classified info on Weiner's computer and noted the careless handling of classified material by Hillary and her staff.

Sorry, Phan, but Hillary is not innocent here.

 

[Into the Night]

I have no doubt you believe it, Sybil.

gfm7175 is not you, Sock.

 

[Into the Night]

You're a psycho, Sybil. If you want to believe Fox News is Leftist and controlled by the Democratic Party, no one can stop you, son.

It is controlled by leftists, including the Democrat party, Sock. gfm7175 is not you. He is not your son. You are hallucinating again.

 

[Into the Night]

Nice try, Terry.

You can't deny your own posts, Sock.

 

[Into the Night]

I'm sure ignorant shitheads like you find that a problem. Some may be suffering from symptoms of a cold and simply not want to pass it on to someone else, why the fuck do you have a problem with that?

Masks do not stop a cold (rhinovirus) or any other virus.
Paradox M.

 

[Into the Night]

I would have to do a little research to say but since a complete fucking asshole like you calls them opinion, they are probably facts.

Opinions are not facts (other than that they exist). Learn what 'fact' means.

 

[Into the Night]

That is certainly the mantra of the trump supporter.

He never mentioned Trump, twit. Pay attention.

 

[Into the Night]

Practically all classified info is only classified for a certain amount of time, before long most of it becomes common knowledge to anyone who cares to look. Because some of what had been classified on Hillarys server was originally classified does not mean it was classified years later.

It was classified at the time, which makes it espionage.

 

[Into the Night]

No doubt Trump will use that defense at his trial.

With the addition, that he was President and Hillary was only a Secretary of State. LOL

He can, but he doesn't need to. The President can retain any document he wishes upon leaving office. They do not have to be declassified.

 

[Into the Night]

Except trump took hundreds if not thousands of classified materials that were brand spanking new and very much classified while what Hillary had was years old and meaningless. I'm sure you are right though.

It's legal for Trump to retain any document he wishes, classified or not.
It is NOT legal for Hillary to transmit classified information to unauthorized personnel.

 

[Into the Night]

The SOS's before Hillary (Powell and Rice) both said they used private servers. Powell said he used AOL for christs sakes. Hillary at least went to great lengths to keep hers secure. There is also a big difference between something "confidential" and the fucking nuclear codes.

Hillary did NOT go to any great lengths to keep hers secure. It as an UNSECURED SERVER. She transmitted classified information to unauthorized personnel. That's espionage, dude.

 

[Into the Night]

most of the info Hillary passed was classified after the fact, a fact you continue to ignore.

Not a fact. Blatant lie. Learn what 'fact' means.

 

[Into the Night]

It is extremely difficult to think someone who is in contact with sensitive information may at some point have some in their possession. When confronted about it they understand and have no qualms returning it is one thing, when they fucking take thousands of them and lie and try and hide them and refuse to return them you have a crime that needs to be prosecuted. Nothing Biden or Pence had were anything of the magnitude of what Trump deliberatly stole and refused to return. If Trump had said "oops, sorry, didn't mean to take something I should not have feel free to come and search anything you want" he never would have been prosecuted for anything. The fucking ignorant Trump Nazi has no ability to see the difference. Just like the ignorant Trump Nazi says as long as the banks say that Trumps fraud did not cost them anything he has the right to break every fucking law concerning filing fraudulent financial documents.

Trump broke no law. The Nazis were socialists, like DEMOCRATS.

 

[Into the Night]

No disagreement there. Trump is being prosecuted for failing to cooperate.

It is not a crime to fail to cooperate, Sock.

Still, as you noted with Pence and Biden, our elected officials are too slack in their handling of classified material. If they pulled that shit in the military, they'd be punished be it NJP or a court-martial. If a military person did what Trump did, it certainly be a court-martial, conviction and Dishonorable Discharge.

A soldier is not the President, Sock.

I hope these incidents results in tighter rules for our elected leaders regarding classified material because right now it's a sieve with the Russians, North Koreans, Iran and other hostile nations anxious to collect what's leaking through.

Trump broke no law, Sock. He is authorized to retain any document he wishes, whether classified or not.

 

[QP!]

Facts are whatever one wants them to be. Covid is the latest example. I still see people wearing a mask.

I'm sure ignorant shitheads like you find that a problem. Some may be suffering from symptoms of a cold and simply not want to pass it on to someone else, why the fuck do you have a problem with that?

Yup.

Or some may be severely immuno compromised.

I had one friend, in the midst of dealing with leukemia and Chemo and whose immune system was at zero, who would get mocking passing comments by people who saw her wearing her mask in grocery stores or coffee shops.

It is just yet another thing that makes the magats deplorable because it is not enough for them not to wear a mask, and instead they feel they need to mock those who need or chose to wear one.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Good song, son. I know your mom loved it!

 

[Port Tack]

Trump broke no law. The Nazis were socialists, like DEMOCRATS.

If one is fucking stupid enough to believe that asshole. We will see when convicted. Just like he never raped that woman but now owes about 80 million to her and he's innocent of fraud and now owes a half a billion. Just like you can claim the sky is green yet everyone knows it is blue.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

If one is fucking stupid enough to believe that asshole. We will see when convicted. Just like he never raped that woman but now owes about 80 million to her and he's innocent of fraud and now owes a half a billion. Just like you can claim the sky is green yet everyone knows it is blue.

Stupid enough or mentally whacked enough. In Sybil's case, I believe it's the latter case since he seems to have a modicum of intelligence and education.

Over 2/3's of the Insurrectionists, including Ashli, had mental issues. As JPP proves daily, so do most JPP MAGAts.

 

[Port Tack]

Masks do not stop a cold (rhinovirus) or any other virus.
Paradox M.

Yes, that is why when doctors are performing surgery everyone is wearing them. I guess they did not consult with the resident jackass from JPP.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Americans have gotten so casual with language that nothing has precise meaning anymore.

One thing about trying to preserve the literal meaning of language,

as opposed to saying, language evolves and shrugging one's shoulders,

is that literate people can then know exactly what one another is trying to get across.

When we start getting careless with words,

a lot of concepts, these even including fact and opinion, get blurred.