Louisiana Requires All Public Classrooms to Display Ten Commandments

Cypress said:
Most of the Decalogue are instructions for how to have the proper relationship with the god of Abraham, there's only four of the commandments that could be considered universal moral expectations.

So it really is a stealth attempt to promote Christianity in public schools.
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Which is strange as the 10 commandments were given to the Jews on Mount Sinai and are in fact 10 guides pointing to 613 commandment, They are not universal

The Ten Commandments are the first ten of the 613 commandments given by God to the Jewish people. They form the foundation of Jewish ethics, behavior and responsibility. These commandments are mentioned in order twice in the Torah - once each in the Book of Exodus and the Book of Deuteronomy.

I am the Lord thy god, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
 
Flash said:
Read the 14th amendment which served as the basis for making most of the Bill of Rights applicable to the states. The 14th amendment served as the basis for the change in the Constitution accepted by every liberal and conservative Supreme Court.
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This isn't about the 14th Amendment. Read the first word of the 1st Amendment. The 14th Amendment didn't change the first word of the 1st Amendment from "Congress" to "States"
 
Diesel said:
Flip forward a few pages. Everson v. Board established that the 14th Amendment applies to the establishment clause and therefore the states. In 1947. You should know what you're talking about before you insult others.
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The 14th Amendment does not change the first word of the 1st Amendment from "Congress" to "States".
 
Diesel said:
Congress changed the Constitution in 1868 with the 14th Amendment that applied the establishment clause to all of the states due to equal protection. Do you know anything about this thread?
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The 14th Amendment does not change the first word of the 1st Amendment from "Congress" to "States".
 
domer76 said:
Work on your grammar as well.

One votes for or against a Democrat. They either vote Democratic or not.
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That was an intentional bastardization of the English language by the Republican party over the past 10 years or so. You're right, of course. "Democrat" is not an adjective. A person can register as a Democrat but one cannot be a "Democrat" congressperson or vote "Democrat". I lot of stupid people did get tricked though.
 
Diesel said:
That was an intentional bastardization of the English language by the Republican party over the past 10 years or so. You're right, of course. "Democrat" is not an adjective. A person can register as a Democrat but one cannot be a "Democrat" congressperson or vote "Democrat". I lot of stupid people did get tricked though.
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It was a common tactic by Limbaugh. He did it intentionally as a derogatory term. Now, as you said, most are too fucking stupid to know the difference.

Lemmings
 
SlaveForChrist said:
So you have activist courts saying something, not actual law.

Having a listbof commandments in the classroom is not "establishing" anything
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You are a colossal moron. Read the 1st Amendment, the 14th Amendment, and Everson v. Board of Education. No "activist court" did anything. The Constitution has been amended, twice, to prevent state-sponsored religion.
 
gfm7175 said:
The 14th Amendment does not change the first word of the 1st Amendment from "Congress" to "States".
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You people somehow get dumber every day.

The 14th Amendment DID (effectively) change the word "Congress" in the 1A to "No state" in the 14A. Read very slowly and shut the fuck up:

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Then, for funsies, see how that amendment passed in 1868 has been effectuated, treated, and interpreted since then. You are so inconceivably wrong that you may as well be saying that the sun rises in the west.
 
domer76 said:
Derp = “you’re a fucking moron.”

Faster to type. Get used to seeing it.
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Commander Dutch said:
However, isn't banning teaching world religions also wrong? Where do we draw the line?
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There's a huge difference between teaching *about* world religions and teaching them as though trying to convert the student. Posting the precepts of a particular religion in a classroom is an example of performing the latter.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
There's a huge difference between teaching *about* world religions and teaching them as though trying to convert the student. Posting the precepts of a particular religion in a classroom is an example of performing the latter.
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Exactly. The latter one being anti-Constitutional. Possibly. Only if it's to the exclusion of others. Someone will test it and it will end up being overturned by a lower court.
 
Guno צְבִי said:
Which is strange as the 10 commandments were given to the Jews on Mount Sinai and are in fact 10 guides pointing to 613 commandment, They are not universal

The Ten Commandments are the first ten of the 613 commandments given by God to the Jewish people. They form the foundation of Jewish ethics, behavior and responsibility. These commandments are mentioned in order twice in the Torah - once each in the Book of Exodus and the Book of Deuteronomy.

I am the Lord thy god, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
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:thumbsup: You know a lot more about it than I do!
 
domer76 said:
I find the origin and tenets of religion, especially Christianity, quite interesting.

As Bart Ehrman puts it, Christianity and the Bible is and has been a major force in history. And in America. To ignore that or minimize it is a mistake.
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I agree with all of that. Please keep posting on the topic, we get enough troll threads and nonsense posted here
 
Commander Dutch said:
There's a clear difference between a school sanctioning leading prayer groups and teaching information on different religions. Again, teaching the Ten Commandments to the exclusion of other religions is unconstitutional and obviously wrong in a free society.

However, isn't banning teaching world religions also wrong? Where do we draw the line?
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Yes, you're right it's wrong.

Posting the ten commandments, which is a largely a list of how to have a proper relationship with the god of Abraham, is obviously promoting one religion.

I don't see how the courts could rule against an academic survey class of world religions.
 
Cypress said:
Yes, you're right it's wrong.

Posting the ten commandments, which is a largely a list of how to have a proper relationship with the god of Abraham, is obviously promoting one religion.

I don't see how the courts could rule against an academic survey class of world religions.
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The first four are overtly religious.
 
Diesel said:
You are a colossal moron. Read the 1st Amendment, the 14th Amendment, and Everson v. Board of Education. No "activist court" did anything. The Constitution has been amended, twice, to prevent state-sponsored religion.
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First Amendment doesn't say a word about Ten Commandments. Neither does the 14th Amendment. Emerson V Board is about public funding going to private and public school buses. Nothing about the ten commandments. So it appears the colossal moron here is you
 
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