Michigan: Right to Work defeats Right to Pork

007 said:
Foreigners have no say in constitutional law.
Keep your nose out of what don't concern you.
Do Americans constantly try to force your sovereign nation to adopt a private health system?
No.
So you, hater of Americans , do refrain from trying to Americans to suffer under a crappy rationed healthcare system.

No one dies in the way you describe, or for the reasons you describe.
Filthy anti American UN propaganda!
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"Do Americans constantly try to force your sovereign nation to adopt a private health system?"

I assume that's a rhetorical question.

Money knows no sovereign bounds. Of course people are hoping Canada will open the medical system to private interests. What better country to invest in, medical-wise?

As for "Filthy anti American UN propaganda!" and that communist Harvard study I almost feel sorry for you. Almost. :)
 
SmarterthanYou said:
you really have to ask that of apple? this is a person who believes that if 8 million people have to be murdered to institute a one world government, so be it.
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Nobody has to be murdered. Do I have to repeat myself? To get along, you go along.

Now type that out 50 times and no copy-'n-paste. :nono:
 
007 said:
So the hated Americans will suffer( or do you call em septics?) a crappy healthcare system?
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You've been listening to much Repub propaganda. The citizens in dozens of countries are happy with their government medical. Show me ONE country where a politician is campaigning on eliminating it.

It's all Repub lies. All of it. Every single word.
 
Rune said:
Wrong! one person's anectdotal experience does not denote a trend.
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But your broad brush that says non-union workers don't enjoy decent wages is factual....Its bullshit....and millions of workers
can vouch for that fact....union organizers are told to fuck off all over the country of late....by those that have the right to choose....and that to is a fact.

So whats the trend of union membership for the last few decades....?....or do you just stick you head where the sun don't shine when that comes up.
 
Rune said:
Reagan anyone? Service economy rather than manufacturing? (wish I could laugh about this, but I have children)
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Thats is unfortunate .......for them.....you're one of the fools that heaps debt on them so those in you gang can have more good stamps, obscene taxpayer funded pensions and free abortions.....yes, unfortunate...
 
bravo said:
But your broad brush that says non-union workers don't enjoy decent wages is factual....Its bullshit....and millions of workers
can vouch for that fact....union organizers are told to fuck off all over the country of late....by those that have the right to choose....and that to is a fact.

So whats the trend of union membership for the last few decades....?....or do you just stick you head where the sun don't shine when that comes up.
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It is factual though, Bravo. It is a fact that union workers earn better pay for the same work. In fact, all workers earn better pay, because of unions, whether they are members or not. How quickly that will change when the last union is gone, a time your masters yearn for dearly.

The trend of the last few decades only proves how sorely bad an idea Citizens United is. Nothing more. Oh, and that you are retarded for so grossly misunderstanding the situation, especially since you are likely old enough to remember pre-union times.
 
bravo said:
Thats is unfortunate .......for them.....you're one of the fools that heaps debt on them so those in you gang can have more good stamps, obscene taxpayer funded pensions and free abortions.....yes, unfortunate...
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Unlike you, I didn't support Bush II as he trebled the national debt, idiot.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
people WILL RESIST!!!! what will you do then?
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As more and more benefits become apparent there will be less and less resistance. It's already happening. Compare the resistance when ObamaCare was first mentioned to the current opposition. No country has ever reverted to a "pay or suffer" system. Never. Ever. Not in the entire world. Surely that tells you something.

That's why the Repubs tried so hard to defeat it. They knew that once the people actually experienced government involvement in health care the game was over. Not only will the resistance fade but the people will insist on more government involvement. They'll want a full government plan. They'll want reasonable drug prices.

Health care is too big to leave to a few boys in the back room or the boardroom.
 
apple0154 said:
As more and more benefits become apparent there will be less and less resistance. It's already happening. Compare the resistance when ObamaCare was first mentioned to the current opposition. No country has ever reverted to a "pay or suffer" system. Never. Ever. Not in the entire world. Surely that tells you something.

That's why the Repubs tried so hard to defeat it. They knew that once the people actually experienced government involvement in health care the game was over. Not only will the resistance fade but the people will insist on more government involvement. They'll want a full government plan. They'll want reasonable drug prices.

Health care is too big to leave to a few boys in the back room or the boardroom.
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one world government is what i'm talking about....however, the premise is still the same. people will resist in either case. your naive belief that people will somehow see their way to humbly accepting obamacare in their lives 'to get along' is foolhardy. people will resist.

so I ask again, what will you do or support when people actually resist????
 
SmarterthanYou said:
one world government is what i'm talking about....however, the premise is still the same. people will resist in either case. your naive belief that people will somehow see their way to humbly accepting obamacare in their lives 'to get along' is foolhardy. people will resist.

so I ask again, what will you do or support when people actually resist????
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They resist and they'll get charged a fine - refuse to pay that fine and then we're talking about interest being applied to that same said fine. Eventually you fuckers will either come around or find yourselves behind bars with the ass rapists (if you're white and you're not a part of the Aryan Brotherhood, you're gonna be someone's bitch) and prison gangs based off of ethnicity.

Personally I'm not gonna support prison rape victims, they will be lucky they've got Obamacare to fall back on though - it's the circle of life, not much you or anyone else can do about it (except fight your ass off the first day in prison, even then - whitey doesn't stand a chance)...
 
Zombie Jesus said:
They resist and they'll get charged a fine - refuse to pay that fine and then we're talking about interest being applied to that same said fine. Eventually you fuckers will either come around or find yourselves behind bars with the ass rapists (if you're white and you're not a part of the Aryan Brotherhood, you're gonna be someone's bitch) and prison gangs based off of ethnicity.

Personally I'm not gonna support prison rape victims, they will be lucky they've got Obamacare to fall back on though - it's the circle of life, not much you or anyone else can do about it (except fight your ass off the first day in prison, even then - whitey doesn't stand a chance)...
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charged a fine LOL interest applied to fine LOL

dumbass, we're talking resisting with lethal force....firearms. killing the enforcers and their collaborators. WHAT WILL YOU DO????
 
SmarterthanYou said:
charged a fine LOL interest applied to fine LOL

dumbass, we're talking resisting with lethal force....firearms. killing the enforcers and their collaborators. WHAT WILL YOU DO????
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Oh shit, okay then...the Chick Fil A crowd getting busted for insurrection then tried and found guilty then sent to the slammer, where - if not already part of the Aryan Brotherhood and a refusal to join it's ranks (which isn't a guarantee you're not gonna get ass raped in prison by the way) you're more than likely to become an amigo's or a brother's trophy bitch...traded for nothing more than a pack of smokes or a box of Twinkies (it's prison...they say you can get anything in the joint...you don't wanna ask how they got the Twinkies past the guards though).

Which is kinda funny if you think about it, not so tough without a AR 15 in your hands, Jose or Jamal pushing your shit in a week into your sentence and you'll wish you'd never heard of Ron Paul much less became a Paulbot.

Your numbers are few, and for the most part most you fucks don't have cojones to take up arms against your fellow Americans (which further reduces your numbers) which makes your fucktarded post even more moot than not paying a fine. Even if some of you fellas managed to grab your sacks, you'd still outright lose your shirts (and your lunch, possibly even your lives) in the aftermath of the first skirmish - again, making your fucktarded post even more moot.
 
Rune said:
It is factual though, Bravo. It is a fact that union workers earn better pay for the same work. In fact, all workers earn better pay, because of unions, whether they are members or not. How quickly that will change when the last union is gone, a time your masters yearn for dearly.

The trend of the last few decades only proves how sorely bad an idea Citizens United is. Nothing more. Oh, and that you are retarded for so grossly misunderstanding the situation, especially since you are likely old enough to remember pre-union times.
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"Citizens United describes its mission as being dedicated to restoring the United States government to "citizens' control" and to "assert American values of limited government, freedom of enterprise, strong families, and national sovereignty and security."

Hip Hip Hooray....
 
SmarterthanYou said:
one world government is what i'm talking about....however, the premise is still the same. people will resist in either case. your naive belief that people will somehow see their way to humbly accepting obamacare in their lives 'to get along' is foolhardy. people will resist.

so I ask again, what will you do or support when people actually resist????
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I'd support the government, of course. The time for government medical has arrived. As Obama said, "The time is now."

As far as one world government it has to happen, sooner or later. In a sense it's happening now. Rather than just sending money to poor countries companies (jobs) are being given to them. Taken from us and given to them, essentially. Sharing. Giving other countries a chance to catch up.

Think of it like this. A person needs medical but no one wants to pay for that person. However, if we give that person a job they will get medical coverage and, therefore, they will have medical. So, basically, we're giving thousands of people in foreign counries medical coverage in a roundabout way.

Whether it's your neighbor across the street or a guy half way across the world it's about sharing and helping others. Times continue to change and there will always be those who resist change. Imagine the resistance that took place regarding Roosevelt's New Deal. THAT was change! Social Security to farm programs to unions, the Fair Labor Standards Act setting maximum hours and minimum wages for workers. A lot of change is such a short period.

Now it's time to change again. It's time to look at all the people and realize we have one planet. It's time to work together. We better be united if/when aliens invade.


Sure, we may be willing to give away the farm for one night with
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But what about this dude?
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Would you rather him running things because us earthlings couldn't get along with each other?

Reagan tried to warn us.

(Photos courtesy of http://www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com/DifferentTypesofAlienBeings.html)
 
Stargazer said:
Right To Work: Both chambers of the Michigan legislature pass bills banning union dues as a condition of employment as a Detroit city councilwoman wonders when the pork will arrive. The choice is growth vs. stagnation.

Reports of the GOP's demise may be greatly exaggerated, at least at the state level, as Michigan, birthplace of the modern labor movement and unionism, stands poised to become the nation's 24th right-to-work (RTW) state. If it goes ahead, it will join recent addition Indiana in challenging union power as Gov. Scott Walker successfully did in Wisconsin.

Michigan's Republican governor, Rick Snyder, is poised to sign the landmark legislation. Both GOP-controlled chambers approved measures prohibiting private unions from requiring dues.

The senate quickly followed by voting to impose the same requirement on most public unions. Because of rules requiring a five-day delay between votes in the two chambers on the same legislation, final enactment could not take place until Tuesday at the earliest.

As in Wisconsin, news of the latest challenge to union power met with throngs descending on the state capitol in Lansing. Hell hath no fury like union leaders threatened with a cutoff of union dues needed to fund the political campaigns of their benefactors.

The benefits of RTW laws and the need of Michigan to become an RTW state is self-evident. In an interview with the Associated Press, Snyder, governor of a state with a seasonally adjusted unemployment rate of 9.3%, said one reason for his support of the RTW legislation was reports that some 90 companies have decided to locate next door in Indiana since that state adopted right-to-work legislation.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/120712-636309-michigan-passes-right-to-work-law.htm
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This is a huge victory for workers who like to work.
 
Zombie Jesus said:
Oh shit, okay then...the Chick Fil A crowd getting busted for insurrection then tried and found guilty then sent to the slammer, where - if not already part of the Aryan Brotherhood and a refusal to join it's ranks (which isn't a guarantee you're not gonna get ass raped in prison by the way) you're more than likely to become an amigo's or a brother's trophy bitch...traded for nothing more than a pack of smokes or a box of Twinkies (it's prison...they say you can get anything in the joint...you don't wanna ask how they got the Twinkies past the guards though).

Which is kinda funny if you think about it, not so tough without a AR 15 in your hands, Jose or Jamal pushing your shit in a week into your sentence and you'll wish you'd never heard of Ron Paul much less became a Paulbot.

Your numbers are few, and for the most part most you fucks don't have cojones to take up arms against your fellow Americans (which further reduces your numbers) which makes your fucktarded post even more moot than not paying a fine. Even if some of you fellas managed to grab your sacks, you'd still outright lose your shirts (and your lunch, possibly even your lives) in the aftermath of the first skirmish - again, making your fucktarded post even more moot.
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you fantasize about prison rape alot.........something missing in your life?
 
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