Onward Christian soldiers

[Dutch Uncle]

So Lucifer was actually the good guy in the story?

Since he got Eve to eat the Apple?

Bad is good, good is bad - leftist mantra.

^^^
Helps explain why no one wants to immigrate to Australia except spoiled Americans and anyone from a lesser shithole country.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

In the 1948 war, when Palestinians fled for their lives, their land and homes were confiscated by the Israelis.

Who initiated that war, Domer?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

What foreign or domestic policies of Pres. Trump did you disagree with?

Trump pushing for NATO nations to cough up their share of costs and military forces was good, but mostly he hurt us by demonizing NATO and sucking Putin's cock. Same for Kim.

 

[Margot]

In the 1948 war, when Palestinians fled for their lives, their land and homes were confiscated by the Israelis.

The Israel,'s were evicting squatters on their land.

 

[Margot]

Organized religions are about the power and control of derps.

Lest we forget the original Popes were often warlords or elites who rejected the 'Right of Birth right' that said you had to be born into a certain family to be a King and hold power.

A lot of smart people rejected that and by being a Pope, you could build and command an army, tax citizens (thru donations), get lands and Titles, and wield immense political power.

it was created to rival the power of Kings.

A grift.

Steer clear of organized religion if you're religious!

 

[domer76]

Who initiated that war, Domer?

Multiple Arab nations began the conflict when Israel declared itself a nation. They lost the war.

Now, so did Japan, Italy, Germany. Did the victors take away their land and give it to somebody else? Even the bitterly fought Civil War, the Confederates were allowed to keep their weapons.

The Palestinians who fled their homes even prior to that war, lost them. The Israelis merely took them as “in absence” property.

Gaza is what remains of those refugees. Outdoor prison.

 

[domer76]

The Israel,'s were evicting squatters on their land.

Bullshit. The Palestinians had prospering societies in Jaffa and Haifa and all along the coast. That land was no more the Israelis until it was awarded to them after WWI, when the Brits oversaw thing, and WWII when the UN gave them nationhood.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Multiple Arab nations began the conflict when Israel declared itself a nation. They lost the war.

Now, so did Japan, Italy, Germany. Did the victors take away their land and give it to somebody else? Even the bitterly fought Civil War, the Confederates were allowed to keep their weapons.

The Palestinians who fled their homes even prior to that war, lost them. The Israelis merely took them as “in absence” property.

Gaza is what remains of those refugees. Outdoor prison.

And keep losing it. Is it really a surprise why other Arab nations don't want to take Palestinian refugees?

Really? Is that what you were told or do you have actual evidence, Domer?

Agreed. Abandoning one's property has consequences. Do you believe in the right of self-defense, Domer?

There's over 400 Americans in Gaza. All there through free will. Your claims it's a prison are bullshit. You're either stupid or a liar. I don't believe you are stupid.

 

[Uncensored2008]

In the 1948 war, when Palestinians fled for their lives, their land and homes were confiscated by the Israelis.

Oh, look at you rewrite history.

Hitler would be SO PROUD of you.

What's amusing is that your lord and savior, Karl Marx, was born to a Jewish family. Yes, he disavowed his religion but using the Hitlerian rules your party operates under, he was a Jew....

 

[Cypress]

Organized religions are about the power and control of derps.

Lest we forget the original Popes were often warlords or elites who rejected the 'Right of Birth right' that said you had to be born into a certain family to be a King and hold power.

A lot of smart people rejected that and by being a Pope, you could build and command an army, tax citizens (thru donations), get lands and Titles, and wield immense political power.

it was created to rival the power of Kings.

A grift.

It's anachronistic to apply 21st century values to Medieval people. At a minimum, that is poor historical analysis.

The papacy is an institution.

There have been nearly 300 popes.

Some were decent and pious men, trying to do their best.

Some were downright corrupt.

The historic Pope was both the Bishop of Rome and a secular ruler.

Strict pacifism is not a tenet of Christianity. But Saint Augustine laid out a philosophy of just war that is supposed to inform Christian sensibilities. From a 12th century perspective, protecting Christian Constantinople from Turkish incursion, and recovering Jerusalem from the Muslims was not an outrageous and criminal position to take. The sacking of Jerusalem and the slaughter of innocents by the crusader armies were obviously, however , war crimes.

 

[Kamala Trump]

It's anachronistic to apply 21st century values to Medieval people. At a minimum, that is poor historical analysis.

The papacy is an institution.

There have been nearly 300 popes.

Some were decent and pious men, trying to do their best.

Some were downright corrupt.

The historic Pope was both the Bishop of Rome and a secular ruler.

Strict pacifism is not a tenet of Christianity. But Saint Augustine laid out a philosophy of just war that is supposed to inform Christian sensibilities. From a 12th century perspective, protecting Christian Constantinople from Turkish incursion, and recovering Jerusalem from the Muslims was not an outrageous and criminal position to take. The sacking of Jerusalem and the slaughter of innocents by the crusader armies were obviously, however , war crimes.

some christians feel christianity is strict pacificism. I believe there is evidence to support this view.

 

[Bigdog]

All of them!

Next!

Obviously, you are unwilling or incapable of discussing any one policy intelligently.

 

[domer76]

And keep losing it. Is it really a surprise why other Arab nations don't want to take Palestinian refugees?

Really? Is that what you were told or do you have actual evidence, Domer?

Agreed. Abandoning one's property has consequences. Do you believe in the right of self-defense, Domer?

There's over 400 Americans in Gaza. All there through free will. Your claims it's a prison are bullshit. You're either stupid or a liar. I don't believe you are stupid.

Grant allowed officers to keep their mounts and sidearms. There was no formal surrender mechanism for the common soldier. They just merely went home with the possessions they had, including their weapons.

The Americans in Gaza are irrelevant and a bullshit diversion on your part. The Palestinians there are remnants of the 1948 refugees who lost their homes and land when the Israelis confiscated them. Period. You can fucking argue all you want and try to bring in diversionary BS, but it’s the truth.

Then, walled them off with fences and created a land, sea and air blockade. A fucking prison. And you wonder why the Palestinians hate them.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

some christians feel christianity is strict pacificism. I believe there is evidence to support this view.

Based on the turn-the-other-cheek advice?

 

[Kamala Trump]

Based on the turn-the-other-cheek advice?

based on that.

based on other things.

its not zionism light like brainwashed noahides think.

 

[Kamala Trump]

Grant allowed officers to keep their mounts and sidearms. There was no formal surrender mechanism for the common soldier. They just merely went home with the possessions they had, including their weapons.

The Americans in Gaza are irrelevant and a bullshit diversion on your part. The Palestinians there are remnants of the 1948 refugees who lost their homes and land when the Israelis confiscated them. Period. You can fucking argue all you want and try to bring in diversionary BS, but it’s the truth.

Then, walled them off with fences and created a land, sea and air blockade. A fucking prison. And you wonder why the Palestinians hate them.

zionists are gay buttfuckers.

 

[Cypress]

some christians feel christianity is strict pacificism. I believe there is evidence to support this view.

Right, Quakers, Mennonites, Anabaptists.

But the teachings of the Church fathers, especially Augustine, was that for the most part Christians would be citizens of nation states, as well as Christians. To realistically function in this world, one would have to balance the duties of being a citizen with being Christian.

The church fathers were considered equally authoritative as the New Testament. Sola scriptura is a uniquely Protestant concept that didn't exist until centuries after the Crusuafesy. Quakers, Mennonites, and Anabaptists all grew out of a radical Protestant tradition.


Protecting the Christian Byzantine Empire from Turkish incursion, and recovering Holy Jerusalem from the Muslims in principle would have seemed like just cause war to 12th century Europeans. It was the specific actions taken by rowdy crusader armies that ended up being criminal and morally reprehensible.

 

[QP!]

Bullshit. The Palestinians had prospering societies in Jaffa and Haifa and all along the coast. That land was no more the Israelis until it was awarded to them after WWI, when the Brits oversaw thing, and WWII when the UN gave them nationhood.

Not exactly correct.

If you are looking historically what we call the original peoples of that area, 'The Palestinians', were constituted in part of the Jews. The Jews are an original Palestinian people


That is why the Arab's, who came later want NEITHER a Jewish State or a Palestinian State in their midst. The only thing the Arab Nations hate more than a Jewish State in their midst is BOTH a Jewish and Palestine one.

THat is why the Arab nations have backed the two fighting one another for over 50 years now, since the Khartoum Summit when they Arab nations wrote they would weaponize the Palestinians DESIRE for a homeland against Israel.


that is also why Israel, or no one else can negotiate a peace, in good faith with any Palestinian leadership as the Arab nations just funnel in billions of dollars to groups who will disrupt it. That is why Yasser Arafat dies with over a Billion dollars, despite living a relatively poor life, from the outside. As Arb's bribed him to kill the deal, Bill Clinton had Israel agreed to.

The Arab nations know the day after a State of Palestine is created it would have no legitimate reason to then fight Israel for any land as they BOTH would have land. That Palestine State though would have plenty of reasons (Oil) to immediately start fighting Arab nations to give up occupied lands, as Arab nations sit on more contested Palestinian land, than Israel does, and much of that land has oil.

 

[Kamala Trump]

Right, Quakers, Mennonites, Anabaptists.

But the teachings of the Church fathers, especially Augustine, is that for the most part Christians would be citizens of nation states, as well as Christians. To realistically function in this world, one would have to balance being a citizen with being Christian.

The church fathers were considered equally authoritative as the New Testament. Sola scriptura is a uniquely Protestant concept that didn't exist until centuries after the Crusuafesy. Quakers, Mennonites, and Anabaptists all grew out of a radical Protestant tradition.


Protecting the Christian Byzantine Empire from Turkish incursion, and recovering Holy Jerusalem from the Muslims in principle would have seemed like just cause war to 12th century Europeans. It was the specific actions taken by rowdy crusader armies that ended up being criminal and morally reprehensible.

fuck the church fathers. I don't need a bunch of assholes to tell me how to read.

christ's kingdom is not of this world.

 

[Kamala Trump]

Not exactly correct.

If you are looking historically what we call the original peoples of that area, 'The Palestinians', were constituted in part of the Jews. The Jews are an original Palestinian people


That is why the Arab's, who came later want NEITHER a Jewish State or a Palestinian State in their midst. The only thing the Arab Nations hate more than a Jewish State in their midst is BOTH a Jewish and Palestine one.

THat is why the Arab nations have backed the two fighting one another for over 50 years now, since the Khartoum Summit when they Arab nations wrote they would weaponize the Palestinians DESIRE for a homeland against Israel.


that is also why Israel, or no one else can negotiate a peace, in good faith with any Palestinian leadership as the Arab nations just funnel in billions of dollars to groups who will disrupt it. That is why Yasser Arafat dies with over a Billion dollars, despite living a relatively poor life, from the outside. As Arb's bribed him to kill the deal, Bill Clinton had Israel agreed to.

The Arab nations know the day after a State of Palestine is created it would have no legitimate reason to then fight Israel for any land as they BOTH would have land. That Palestine State though would have plenty of reasons (Oil) to immediately start fighting Arab nations to give up occupied lands, as Arab nations sit on more contested Palestinian land, than Israel does, and much of that land has oil.

right.

it's all a plot against the jews.

no paranoia there.