Reagan, that block of wood with hair, ushered in the neocons.

Desh and Blackas are as dumb as dems can get
I can only imagine the piece of shit school that sold them thier associates degrees.:clink:
 
Yes both of you are dumber than a pile of bricks.
Anyone who thinks EVERYTHING the other side does is wrong is a SIMPLETON. You are queen simpleton and BAC is either king/queen
 
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BLU406A.html

there are those who think it was even a hinderance to the fall


Long the leading Soviet expert on the United States, Georgi Arbatov, head of the Moscow-based Institute for the Study of the U.S.A. and Canada, wrote his memoirs in 1992. A Los Angeles Times book review by Robert Scheer summed up a portion of it:
"Arbatov understood all too well the failings of Soviet totalitarianism in comparison to the economy and politics of the West. It is clear from this candid and nuanced memoir that the movement for change had been developing steadily inside the highest corridors of power ever since the death of Stalin. Arbatov not only provides considerable evidence for the controversial notion that this change would have come about without foreign pressure, he insists that the U.S. military buildup during the Reagan years actually impeded this development."

George F. Kennan agrees. The former US ambassador to the Soviet Union, and father of the theory of "containment" of the same country, asserts that "the suggestion that any United States administration had the power to influence decisively the course of a tremendous domestic political upheaval in another great country on another side of the globe is simply childish." He contends that the extreme militarization of American policy strengthened hard-liners in the Soviet Union. "Thus the general effect of Cold War extremism was to delay rather than hasten the great change that overtook the Soviet Union."
 
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Of course it was, the beauty of Reagan's plan is it took advantage of those little foibles and worked to hasten the demise. It worked. Of course he was only a portion of it. The Pope took part as well as many others. Working together using their own corruption against them, the reality of the system's failures became apparent.

The attempt by the modern left to reduce the importance of Reagan's policies in hastening that demise is what people object to.

That and the attempt to say he was a NeoCon solely because Bush was a VP and people he didn't listen to held a small part of his Admin staff.
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Again, she's pulling that revisionist history crap. Go back and look at the '80's. A lot of people in the U.S. thought we should live with two superpowers and did not question that the Soviet Union would come apart at the seems. In retrospect it's easy to say that which is what Desh is doing and claim Gorby was this great reformer. Reagan does not deserve all the credit by any means but he played a big role in helping to force Gorby into a position where he had no other option but change.
 
Desh said:
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/BLU406A.html

there are those who think it was even a hinderance to the fall



"Arbatov understood all too well the failings of Soviet totalitarianism in comparison to the economy and politics of the West. It is clear from this candid and nuanced memoir that the movement for change had been developing steadily inside the highest corridors of power ever since the death of Stalin. Arbatov not only provides considerable evidence for the controversial notion that this change would have come about without foreign pressure, he insists that the U.S. military buildup during the Reagan years actually impeded this development."

George F. Kennan agrees. The former US ambassador to the Soviet Union, and father of the theory of "containment" of the same country, asserts that "the suggestion that any United States administration had the power to influence decisively the course of a tremendous domestic political upheaval in another great country on another side of the globe is simply childish." He contends that the extreme militarization of American policy strengthened hard-liners in the Soviet Union. "Thus the general effect of Cold War extremism was to delay rather than hasten the great change that overtook the Soviet Union."
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LMAO!!!!!!!!! Oh man, I feel like Eric Cartman when he couldn't stop laughing. This is beyond comical.
 
Desh has an IQ barley above room temparature, Gorby's own people overthrew him. Desh loves him more than Russia did. She's just using the traitorish Dem card, slander all republicans. She's a simpleton.
 
Those two men quoted there have a better understanding of the USSR than any of you people here.
 
You don't understand much outside your house.
Reagan was a great President. And Democrats with IQ's above room temparature like OBAMA realize it. YOu and blackasamoron however haven't had the benefit of a real education.
 
http://www.thecrimson.harvard.edu/printerfriendly.aspx?ref=255213


He said that he had been shaped by living through Soviet leader Joseph Stalin’s purges in the 1930s, the Nazi occupation of his home district during World War II and the country’s rebuilding period following the war. He also cited Nikita S. Khrushchev’s celebrated “Secret Speech” of 1956, in which he criticized Stalin for an overly repressive regime. Gorbachev said this set the youth of the time on the path that eventually led to reform.

“This was for us a breath of fresh air, a breath of freedom that remained with us,” he said. “Those who started in politics at that time had a critical approach and retained a critical approach to everything.”
 
Desh said:
Those two men quoted there have a better understanding of the USSR than any of you people here.
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Desh, the goal of US policy was not to see a reform of the USSR or a change of heart at the Kremlin, but merely to spend the commies into collapse. It worked. How much good reform did the USSR is evident in retrospect--none--it no longer exists.
 
Desh you have several people here that are on the left telling you you are way off base on this. You can find one off pieces and opinions to support anything you believe. As was stated you are so partisan that you are unable to see what really occured.
 
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