There are no Red States. Only Red farms.

[Into the Night]

You kidding, Jefferson did it as early as 1803, Madison earlier, have to be blind to interpret the Constitution based on a strict adherence to language.

Fiction won't work.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Who knows about what Milquetoast Macaw is blabbering?
I'm not interested enough to find out.

 

[Into the Night]

Were they?

Have you actually read the Constitution.
I suspect that you have,
but now ignore the frosting and check out the cake.

Beautifully inspiring preamble.
Good effort on some of the amendments to protect our freedoms.

That's the frosting.

It's main job, however, was to CONSTITUTE a new nation's government,
and the dumpster fire with which they came up is STILL the least efficient government on the face of the planet.
There's really no room for serious argument on this.

Governments are not about 'efficiency'.

 

[Into the Night]

Never said they were, rather ownership, or did you think the owners of all those factory farms actually lived in Green Acres

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

 

[Into the Night]

I’d disagree, their intent was to set up the framework for a government, which given the times they lived in, came out brilliant, in fact, first such document of its kind, no one previously put it all into writing. However nowhere did they even imply that it was all set in stone, inelastic, but today others manipulate the language of the document to serve their own political purposes

Like you.

By doing that, you deny the Constitution of the United States.

 

[Into the Night]

Got to admit it was the first of its kind, they took the best of the Enlightenment and laid the framework to put it all into action, make it a reality. What others have done with it since, more so employed it as they liked, isn’t on the Founders

No. It's on losers like you, that deny the Constitution of the United States.

 

[Into the Night]

They joined totally incompatible colonies into one nation,
without predicting that the inevitable polarization
would make their fakakta "checks and balances" federal system
the world model for inefficiency.

People do disagree, I guess, but I put it on them, the founders.

What others have done with the constitution since
is all that could have been expected.

More modern democracies makes us look primitive and socially regressive
employing little more than essentially bookstore parliamentary systems.

Government isn't about 'efficiency'.

 

[martin]

Every single one with National Healthcare--any of them makes a good place to start.

How about places with modern rail transportation?
There's a good number of them.

How about the nations with affordable college?
You do the research. I just know that they're there.

What about the nations that still have strong labor unions?

We put a man on the moon back in '69?
Ask me if I give a fat fuck.

I guess that we each care about what we care about, and they're not the same things.

Faulting The Constitution for outdated rail service, etc. is putting blame in the wrong place.

 

[Into the Night]

The German government had clockwork efficiency from 1933 until it was blown to smithereens. The Chinese government today is a model of efficiency.

Governments are not about efficiency. Tyranny is not efficiency.

I doubt you would prefer it. The American government was designed to preserve citizen liberty in part by crippling government from the total authority that would promote efficiency over liberty, by dividing federal powers into separate branches, allocating certain other powers to states and reserving the rest to the people. Made us so “inefficient” the country responded to the attack on Pearl Harbor by rising in less than three years from the 19th to 1st military power in the world, developed the atom bomb, later became the first to put a man on the moon. Without government efficiency in the way we have led the world in many other disciplines. Our Constitution has been a model for other countries and is widely regarded by historians as the greatest ever written.

Yeah, there is room for argument.

Not much.

 

[Into the Night]

They joined totally incompatible colonies into one nation,
without predicting that the inevitable polarization
would make their fakakta "checks and balances" federal system
the world model for inefficiency.

People do disagree, I guess, but I put it on them, the founders.

What others have done with the constitution since
is all that could have been expected.

More modern democracies makes us look primitive and socially regressive
employing little more than essentially bookstore parliamentary systems.

There are currently no democracies in the world. The United States was never a democracy.

 

[Into the Night]

Every single one with National Healthcare--any of them makes a good place to start.

Communism is not a good place to start.

How about places with modern rail transportation?

Like the U.S.? It works well. We move a shitload of cargo on those systems.

There's a good number of them.

So?

How about the nations with affordable college?

Communism doesn't work.

You do the research. I just know that they're there.

They are, and they suck.

What about the nations that still have strong labor unions?

What about 'em?

We put a man on the moon back in '69?

Indeed we did. A marvelous achievement by McDonald-Douglass, the Boeing Company, Grumman (who later became Grumman Aircraft, Raytheon, IBM, and many other smaller corporations. And thanks, to NASA, of course for flying the vehicles there and back successfully several times.

Ask me if I give a fat fuck.

You should, ingrate. You are typing on one of the results of that era right now.

I guess that we each care about what we care about, and they're not the same things.

So you don't care about your personal computer, non-stick cookware, GPS, weather satellites, or any deep space probe. Gotit. All of these came out of the Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo space programs.

 

[Into the Night]

Faulting The Constitution for outdated rail service, etc. is putting blame in the wrong place.

What outdated rail service?

 

[Lionfish]

Right. Smarter than areas that have Harvard, MIT, Boston College and University. Or a Berkeley, Cal Tech, Stanford, etc

Poor gomer

 

[domer76]

Poor gomer

Top universities in the US include:

Harvard
MIT
Stanford
Cal Tech
Princeton
Yale

All blue bastions

Funny how Buttfuck Bible College in Shitstain, Wyoming isn’t listed.
Know what the most difficult university to get into is?

Harvard

https://districtadministration.com/what-are-the-toughest-colleges-to-be-accepted-into-in-2023/

Checkmate, stupid fuck.

 

[Lionfish]

Top universities in the US include:

Harvard
MIT
Stanford
Cal Tech
Princeton
Yale

All blue bastions

Funny how Buttfuck Bible College in Shitstain, Wyoming isn’t listed.
Know what the most difficult university to get into is?

Harvard

https://districtadministration.com/what-are-the-toughest-colleges-to-be-accepted-into-in-2023/

Checkmate, stupid fuck.

You just supported my response you friggin moron.

 

[domer76]

You just supported my response you friggin moron.

You only think so because you’re too fucking stupid to understand simple English. That’s why you use memes so much. Too inarticulate to express yourself.

You never attended college, did you, meme queen.

 

[Lionfish]

You only think so because you’re too fucking stupid to understand simple English. That’s why you use memes so much. Too inarticulate to express yourself.

You never attended college, did you, meme queen.

 

[Into the Night]

Poor gomer

I won't hire them. I don't need that kind of arrogance in my company.

 

[Into the Night]

Top universities in the US include:

Harvard
MIT
Stanford
Cal Tech
Princeton
Yale

All blue bastions

Funny how Buttfuck Bible College in Shitstain, Wyoming isn’t listed.
Know what the most difficult university to get into is?

Harvard

https://districtadministration.com/what-are-the-toughest-colleges-to-be-accepted-into-in-2023/

Checkmate, stupid fuck.

I won't hire from any of them. I don't need that kind of arrogance or illiteracy in my company.

 

[Into the Night]

You just supported my response you friggin moron.

He must be from Harvard.