Thousands more gun dealers now required to run background checks on buyers

[Dutch Uncle]

Creating hurdles to gun access would certainly make the ease of gun suicides, if there are no guns in the house it makes it more difficult

Sure. Who gives a fuck about the 25,000ish gunless suicides, eh? They're mostly stupid kids anyway.https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/;

 

[Uncensored2008]

I do believe this thread proves the exact opposite

Let's remind the audience:

What, it has to go through an FFL?

But that's not the lie you and Bought and Paid for are telling?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Sure it is, you haven’t offered anything to invalidate it

ROFL

Game, set, match.

 

[Grokmaster]

“Biden administration will require thousands more gun dealers to run background checks on buyers”

“Thousands more firearms dealers across the United States will have to run background checks on buyers when selling at gun shows or other places outside brick-and-mortar stores, according to a Biden administration rule that will soon go into effect.”

“The rule, which was finalized this week, makes clear that anyone who sells firearms predominantly to earn a profit must be federally licensed and conduct background checks, regardless of whether they are selling on the internet, at a gun show or at a brick-and-mortar store”

“Administration officials believe the new rule will impact more than 20,000 dealers”

“The rule, which implements the change in the law, will take effect 30 days after it is published in the Federal Register.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/b...s-to-run-background-checks-on-buyers-d6b07a5e

Long overdue, selling guns via the Internet is just plain nuts, along with making straw purchases more difficult

Total fucking LIES.

Gun dealers and sellers have been required to run background checks for DECADES, even at gun shows.

Make some more bullshit.

Meanwhile, your beloved Perpetual Victim Criminals ignore ALL gun laws.

 

[ExpressLane]

Nah, I live in a Blue State, one with strict gun regulations, eliminate the Iron Pipeline and the low gun mortality rates would be even lower

Tell Chicago that

 

[Walt]

Since the 1993 "Brady Bill" the sale of firearms must be through a Federal Firearms Licensed Dealer (FFL) and utilize the NICS background system.

Private sales do not need to go through a FFL.

However, licensed dealers are not required by law to help with private sales.

Private sellers are not required by federal law or Texas law to do a background check before selling a firearm.

https://www.sll.texas.gov/faqs/private-gun-sales/

There is no "gun show loophole" and never has been. You of the anti-liberty left simply lie in your quest to end civil rights.

Nope, a "private sale" at a gun show requires no background check.

The ONLY exemption to background checks is private sales between individuals.

At the beginning of the post, you claimed that all sales must go through a dealer, and now you say they do not. The fact is federal law allows a "private sale" at a gun show, or in a gun store parking lot. There is no background check required.

 

[Walt]

I didn't say that, stupid. I said any purchase, private or dealer on the aforementioned internet sites, you must give the FFL license holder's #, and it has to be sent there.

That is simply not true. Federally, a private sale has almost no requirements.

 

[Walt]

Poor anchovies, already existing law for years. Please go, refresh and research, then MAYBE come back and apologize for your stupidity.

The fact is that under federal law, a private sale does not require any background check, and does not need to go through a dealer. I do not know why you think you can get away with such a blatant lie, but I am willing to bet you will now change the claim to the gun show loophole is somehow good.

 

[Walt]

No they aren't - you are again lying. Armlist allows private sales but the majority are FFL sales.

You start out by saying that it is a lie, and then go to some are private sales? In other words, even you admit it is the truth that private sales happen.

 

[RB 60]

And no you don’t, as I said, all you have to do is agree to do such by checking off a box, it is not monitored or policed, you real that naive on how things work in the real world

How many firearms have you bought through those sites without having to go through a background check or have it sent to a local FFL holder?

I'll tell you, NONE! Damn, stupid people

 

[RB 60]

You start out by saying that it is a lie, and then go to some are private sales? In other words, even you admit it is the truth that private sales happen.

Private sales are not internet sales, as the stupid poster tried to tell us. Then runs away and says private sales.
And no, if private sales are made at a gun show, they cannot be made on the property the gun show is held on.
That would be a breach of both insurance and federal laws. But then, with all the firearm purchases you've made,
you know that... Right Walt?

 

[domer76]

“Biden administration will require thousands more gun dealers to run background checks on buyers”

“Thousands more firearms dealers across the United States will have to run background checks on buyers when selling at gun shows or other places outside brick-and-mortar stores, according to a Biden administration rule that will soon go into effect.”

“The rule, which was finalized this week, makes clear that anyone who sells firearms predominantly to earn a profit must be federally licensed and conduct background checks, regardless of whether they are selling on the internet, at a gun show or at a brick-and-mortar store”

“Administration officials believe the new rule will impact more than 20,000 dealers”

“The rule, which implements the change in the law, will take effect 30 days after it is published in the Federal Register.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/b...s-to-run-background-checks-on-buyers-d6b07a5e

Long overdue, selling guns via the Internet is just plain nuts, along with making straw purchases more difficult

Too bad it only requires “predominantly for profit”. All gun transfers should require background checks. But, the corrupt and bankrupt NRA and gun nuts in general will prevent that.

 

[Walt]

Private sales are not internet sales

Some internet sales are private sales. It is a fact that people can legally buy guns in America with no background check.

And no, if private sales are made at a gun show, they cannot be made on the property the gun show is held on.

There is no law that says that. Last time you made that claim, you backed it up with some gun shows having a rule about it... But that is just some gun shows. You can make a private sale anywhere, in a gun show, a gun store parking lot, over the internet, in a bathroom, etc. Well, anywhere in a state that allows them.

That would be a breach of both insurance and federal laws.

What federal law? There is no federal law. Many insurance companies will not insure such a gun show, but that is a rule, not a law. Insurance companies do not make laws. Some gun shows do not allow private sales, but some
do. Being legal in many states, it is for everyone to decide what they want to personally do.

 

[RB 60]

Some internet sales are private sales. It is a fact that people can legally buy guns in America with no background check.



There is no law that says that. Last time you made that claim, you backed it up with some gun shows having a rule about it... But that is just some gun shows. You can make a private sale anywhere, in a gun show, a gun store parking lot, over the internet, in a bathroom, etc. Well, anywhere in a state that allows them.



What federal law? There is no federal law. Many insurance companies will not insure such a gun show, but that is a rule, not a law. Insurance companies do not make laws. Some gun shows do not allow private sales, but some
do. Being legal in many states, it is for everyone to decide what they want to personally do.

How many guns have YOU purchased, and where did you purchase them to become so knowledgeable of firearm laws? More than I have (and do)?
Insurance companies do make the "laws" on what can be purchased on the insured properties, just as the property owners do for liability purposes.

 

[Walt]

How many guns have YOU purchased, and where did you purchase them to become so knowledgeable of firearm laws? More than I have (and do)?
Insurance companies do make the "laws" on what can be purchased on the insured properties, just as the property owners do for liability purposes.

You live in PA, where state law requires background checks, even with most private sales. Texas does not have that law. Have you ever bought a gun in Texas?

We keep coming back to the fact that if there is no gun show loophole, then why oppose closing the gun show loophole?

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I'm glad that's over......now the lib'ruls won't have to whine about the lack of gun laws.......

 

[domer76]

Creating hurdles to gun access would certainly make the ease of gun suicides, if there are no guns in the house it makes it more difficult

Yep. Easy access to guns is the reason for all gun deaths in general. Suicide, homicide, murder.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

“Biden administration will require thousands more gun dealers to run background checks on buyers”

“Thousands more firearms dealers across the United States will have to run background checks on buyers when selling at gun shows or other places outside brick-and-mortar stores, according to a Biden administration rule that will soon go into effect.”

“The rule, which was finalized this week, makes clear that anyone who sells firearms predominantly to earn a profit must be federally licensed and conduct background checks, regardless of whether they are selling on the internet, at a gun show or at a brick-and-mortar store”

“Administration officials believe the new rule will impact more than 20,000 dealers”

“The rule, which implements the change in the law, will take effect 30 days after it is published in the Federal Register.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/b...s-to-run-background-checks-on-buyers-d6b07a5e

Long overdue, selling guns via the Internet is just plain nuts, along with making straw purchases more difficult

we all know you think freedom is scary and should be nothing more than a bumper sticker slogan. would you be happy if the federal government also heavily regulated garage sales? would that make your pansy ass feel safer?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Nah, I live in a Blue State, one with strict gun regulations, eliminate the Iron Pipeline and the low gun mortality rates would be even lower

because gangbangers and criminals will certainly follow THAT law.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Appears one not only lacks knowledge of the issue but also has a hard time proving that which is provided for him

NEXT

you're projecting your own ignorance and stupidity on others.