Trump was "Jawbreakingly Stupid"

[Into the Night]

That won't fly in court.

The law says it's illegal to take them in the first place. It doesn't matter if you give them back or not.

If you steal a car and give it back does that mean you are not charged?

If Trump is convicted for taking them then Biden and Pence will have to be also.

Trump is authorized to take them. So is Pence (for his materials). Biden was NEVER authorized to take documents home.

 

[Into the Night]

Why do you claim they didn’t


It has been proven

Attempted proof by repetition. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).
RQAA.

 

[Into the Night]

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia


The UK proved it was true with evidence


The FBI proved it was true with evidence

Attempted proof by name dropping. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Putin is also a socialist, and Trump is a conservative. Putin wants DEMOCRATS in power, not conservatives!

It's the "Russia! Russia! Russia!" chant again.

Actually he is conservative and authoritarian, not socialist.

 

[Into the Night]

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/15/5285...ormation-to-russians-during-white-house-visit

Trump was giving them intel so of course they helped him

What intel? Void argument fallacy. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

 

[Into the Night]

Actually he is conservative and authoritarian, not socialist.

Putin is not a conservative. He is a socialist.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

It was illegal to take them. You still cannot understand that? The differences between Trump and Pence and Biden are enormous. Yet you keep lying about it.
Biden and Pence misplaced them. Trump deliberately stole a truckload of classified documents. You say it is the same thing.
Biden and Pence cooperated all the way and the documents were immediately returned. Trump fought NARA and the FBI for a year refusing to return them. When they came for them, Trump hid some of them. To you, that is the same thing.
Trump actually showed classified documents to people without clearances. Biden and Pence of course did not.
Why do you keep lying bout it?

The brain-diseased wretch gets paid to spread bullshit and disinformation?

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Trump is authorized to take them. So is Pence (for his materials). Biden was NEVER authorized to take documents home.

As I said, the PRA classifies the president and the VP in the same category, what one does the other also is responsible for.

If they convict Trump of taking documents they will have to convict Biden and Pence, the PRA lists nothing about giving them back.

If one is convicted and not the other two then that is an injustice and shows favoritism.

This is why Trump will not be convicted on any of these.

 

[Into the Night]

You are not an expert in American law

You are describing yourself. Inversion fallacy. 'Expert' worship.

Full cooperation proves that it was a simple mistake

Attempted proof by contrivance. Biden did NOT cooperate. He STOLE the documents and had them for YEARS.

Biden people readying a Biden library found the docs and CALLED THE AUTHORITIES WITH Bidens blessing to get them back in their proper place

Fiction. Stop making shit up.

You just lie

Lie.

 

[Into the Night]

The search warrant takes care of that issue.

No search warrant. Contextomy fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

There is a lot of info in Smith's indictment re. specific texts and lengths of phone calls between the co conspirators.

Indictment is not conviction, dumbass.

 

[Into the Night]

I'm looking forward to the trials.

Hate speech. TDS.

 

[Into the Night]

I've been saving certain posts here by certain individuals so that we can all share in the delicious, delightful "I TOLD you so" of Schadenfreude delight, come that time.

Hate speech. TDS. Childish.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Putin is not a conservative. He is a socialist.

He has pursued a number of market orientated reforms which is definitely conservative, socialists don't do that, they prefer to take control of the markets themselves and guide them.

It is essentially capitalism.

Putin also demands to be in charge of all aspects, making him authoritarian and not socialist. In socialism the governing body, usually an oligarchy, controls the issues of the nation.

 

[Into the Night]

It was illegal to take them.

It is not illegal for Trump or Pence to take documents as they leave office.

You still cannot understand that?

It is YOU ignoring the law.

The differences between Trump and Pence and Biden are enormous. Yet you keep lying about it.

Trump has the authority to retain any document he wishes. Biden NEVER had authority to take any document home at all. It is YOU that is lying.

Biden and Pence misplaced them.

Biden STOLE DOCUMENTS. He did not 'misplace' them.

Trump deliberately stole a truckload of classified documents. You say it is the same thing.

Trump didn't steal anything.

Biden and Pence cooperated all the way and the documents were immediately returned.

Lie. Biden illegally held documents he had no authorization to hold for YEARS.

Trump fought NARA and the FBI for a year refusing to return them.

Trump doesn't have to return them.

When they came for them, Trump hid some of them.

He did not. Fiction.

To you, that is the same thing.

As far as YOUR wacky story goes, they ARE.

Trump actually showed classified documents to people without clearances.

You are describing Biden. Inversion fallacy.

Biden and Pence of course did not.

Biden DID. Not only did Hunter have access to those documents (also illegal!) he had access while traveling to Ukraine and China, and Joe Biden KNEW ABOUT IT, Nordbutt.

Why do you keep lying bout it?

You are describing yourself. Inversion fallacy.

 

[Flash]

No search warrant. Contextomy fallacy.

They may have a search warrant to tap the phones at El Lago. You don't know whether they did or did not. A U. S. Attorney knows about those things.

It is certainly not out of context since the topic was the legality of a wiretap.

 

[Nordberg]

He has pursued a number of market orientated reforms which is definitely conservative, socialists don't do that, they prefer to take control of the markets themselves and guide them.

It is essentially capitalism.

Putin also demands to be in charge of all aspects, making him authoritarian and not socialist. In socialism the governing body, usually an oligarchy, controls the issues of the nation.

Putin is the boss of a band of oligarchs who run Russia.
Where are the socialists who took over markets? What most people call socialists are countries that spread the wealth out with universal medical care, free education, and some respect for the people. The name triggers rightys who really do not understand it.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

Putin is the boss of a band of oligarchs who run Russia.
Where are the socialists who took over markets? What most people call socialists are countries that spread the wealth out with universal medical care, free education, and some respect for the people. The name triggers rightys who really do not understand it.

Isn't that what I just said?

 

[Into the Night]

As I said, the PRA classifies the president and the VP in the same category, what one does the other also is responsible for.

If they convict Trump of taking documents they will have to convict Biden and Pence, the PRA lists nothing about giving them back.

If one is convicted and not the other two then that is an injustice and shows favoritism.

This is why Trump will not be convicted on any of these.

Biden was not either President or Vice President when Biden stole documents and kept them in his home and gave Hunter Biden access to them while he was traveling to Ukraine and China.
Trump and Pence have the same authority for their documents. They have all the authority they need to retain any document they wish.

Any court attempting to restrict the authority of Trump or Pence in this matter is BREAKING THE LAW.

 

[Into the Night]

He has pursued a number of market orientated reforms which is definitely conservative, socialists don't do that, they prefer to take control of the markets themselves and guide them.

It is essentially capitalism.

Putin also demands to be in charge of all aspects, making him authoritarian and not socialist. In socialism the governing body, usually an oligarchy, controls the issues of the nation.

Fascism is a form of socialism. You are describing fascism.

The current form of government in Russia is oligarchy.

Capitalism needs no 'reforms'. Indeed, it needs no government at all. Governments are created to protect people from thieves and murderers and to perform certain community functions by consent.