What kind of "Christian values" do Conservatives want?

Dutch Uncle said:
Common ground. Agreed there was embellishment. It's a natural trait of human beings. Kill all the humans and you will stop religion completely....will you be happy then?

What matters to you more: Killing religion or seeking a way for all humanity to survive in peace and mutual respect?

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That goal requires the end of religion. Religion is divisive.

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StoneByStone said:
This is a caricature that doesn't exist. I'm surprised you didn't also assume I majored in gender studies. :laugh:
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ROFL Obviously it does. You're a classic example.

Unlike you, I actually use facts instead of just pulling opinions out of my ass. Surely I'm on the only one who as noticed how you and RJ primarely rely upon your opinions instead of posting facts.

Example: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/12/06/10-facts-about-atheists/
In the U.S., atheists are mostly men and are relatively young, according to the 2014 Religious Landscape Study. About seven-in-ten U.S. atheists are men (68%). The median age for atheists is 34, compared with 46 for all U.S. adults. Atheists also are more likely to be white (78% vs. 66% of the general public) and highly educated: About four-in-ten atheists (43%) have a college degree, compared with 27% of the general public. Self-identified atheists also tend to be aligned with the Democratic Party and with political liberalism.

Note those characteristics are for all US atheists. The bigoted, militant atheists like you are a subcategory under "AA - Atheist Assholes". :)
 
rjhenn said:
That goal requires the end of religion. Religion is divisive.

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As are you. Are you admitting you're religious because you are divisive, bigoted and hateful?


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rjhenn said:
Completely delusional.

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Thank you for another example of your hatred and bigotry toward those who disagree with you about killing off religion.

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StoneByStone said:
If Capitalism worked fine, we wouldn't still have so much poverty. Like you said, we already have the problem before the coal mines were shut down.



Give people UBI and Medicare for All, simple as that.
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How much poverty? Just what you can see from your front door? How much have you gotten around, or do you believe what the scandal sheets tell uou?

I can see that you dont have a calculator. UBI and the so-called "Medicare for all" are pipe dreams.
 
Cypress said:
Repeating- The truly disinterested, secular, reasonable person would not invest their ego and emotions into attempts to prove a man known as Jesus of Nazareth never existed. The secular and disinterested person would leave it to the scholarly consensus of trained historians of antiquity

It reminds me of the faith-based hostility of climate deniers.

Rather than take a disinterested approach and defer to the expert consensus opinion of trained scholars, they invest their ego and emotions in a Jihad to prove the historical person known as Jesus of Nazareth was a clever and remarkably successful hoax created out of of thin air by a group of illiterate peasants living in Galilee
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Agreed. A rational person would be more likely to focus upon how some "modern" Christians use their religion not just attack all believers. My favorite example is this sentiment:

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Survivorman said:
How much poverty? Just what you can see from your front door? How much have you gotten around, or do you believe what the scandal sheets tell uou?

I can see that you dont have a calculator. UBI and the so-called "Medicare for all" are pipe dreams.
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I've seen homeless people in every state I lived in. And even if you don't see them from your front door, that doesn't mean they don't exist. I've never seen one in my own neighborhood either. But travel around enough and you will find neighborhoods with people sleeping on the sidewalks.

And they're only pipe dreams as long as we have a right-wing oligarchy in America. If we change that, it becomes more probable.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed. A rational person would be more likely to focus upon how some "modern" Christians use their religion not just attack all believers. My favorite example is this sentiment:

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Virtually all reputable scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus - the man - existed.

It comes close to perilously close to Holocaust denial for militant atheists to suggest the person Jesus never existed and was a hoax perpetrated by a small group of illiterate 1st century peasants.

This kind of militant atheism is quite obviously based on emotion, ego, a willful denial of scholarly consensus, and a burning desire to really, really, really wish it were true that the man Jesus never existed.

If that is not an irrational, faith-based Jihad, I do not know what is.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
ROFL Obviously it does. You're a classic example.

Unlike you, I actually use facts instead of just pulling opinions out of my ass. Surely I'm on the only one who as noticed how you and RJ primarely rely upon your opinions instead of posting facts.

Example: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/12/06/10-facts-about-atheists/
In the U.S., atheists are mostly men and are relatively young, according to the 2014 Religious Landscape Study. About seven-in-ten U.S. atheists are men (68%). The median age for atheists is 34, compared with 46 for all U.S. adults. Atheists also are more likely to be white (78% vs. 66% of the general public) and highly educated: About four-in-ten atheists (43%) have a college degree, compared with 27% of the general public. Self-identified atheists also tend to be aligned with the Democratic Party and with political liberalism.

Note those characteristics are for all US atheists. The bigoted, militant atheists like you are a subcategory under "AA - Atheist Assholes". :)
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So here's what you actually said before: "Thank you for once again proving you lack the intellectual capacity to discuss this topic like an adult. Lemme guess, you're 30ish, some bullshit college degree , in a lower middle-class job and you support anarchism and/or socialism but feel the world owes you something. Doesn't that sum up the common demographic for militant atheists?"

Now that you were called on your lies, you're moving the goalposts.
You're one of the easiest people to read on the entire forum.
 
Cypress said:
Virtually all reputable scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus - the man - existed.

It comes close to perilously close to Holocaust denial for militant atheists to suggest the person Jesus never existed and was a hoax perpetrated by a small group of illiterate 1st century peasants.

This kind of militant atheism is quite obviously based on emotion, ego, a willful denial of scholarly consensus, and a burning desire to really, really, really wish it were true that the man Jesus never existed.

If that is not an irrational, faith-based Jihad, I do not know what is.
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You are preaching to the choir. What fucking moron denies Jesus ever existed? Do you equate denying the divinity of Christ as denying he existed?

Most militant atheists, as well as Bible-thumpers and political extremists, lack maturity, common human decency, compassion and a larger world view.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You are preaching to the choir. What fucking moron denies Jesus ever existed? Do you equate denying the divinity of Christ as denying he existed?

Most militant atheists, as well as Bible-thumpers and political extremists, lack maturity, common human decency, compassion and a larger world view.
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It seems to me that a lot of message board atheists are emotionally invested in the denial of a historical Jesus.

I have been agnostic for periods of my life, but I was always willing to submit to reason, and to trained scholarly consensus on the historicity of Jesus. I never got my ego tied to the premise that the historical Jesus was a hoax.

While some militant atheists claim to honor reason and disinterested rational scholarship, the fact is some of them cling to a quasi religious faith that guides their emotional hostility to even the most benign historical rendering of the life of the human Jesus of Nazareth
 
Cypress said:
Among the most militant of atheists, atheism really becomes a kind of religion. These militant atheists are emotionally invested in trying to prove a man known as Jesus of Nazareth never historically existed, that he is the created hoax of a group of peasants in 1st century Judea.

The truly disinterested, secular, reasonable person would not invest their ego and emotions into attempts to prove a man known as Jesus of Nazareth never existed. The secular and disinterested person would leave it to the scholarly consensus of trained historians of antiquity
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Absolutely right
 
rjhenn said:
My "hate and bigotry" are your delusions. I am a rationalist. I don't do "hate and bigotry". I also don't do religion. It is the opposite of rational.

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You don't do religion?You just post endless post about religion!Ask yourself why?
 
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