Which Poster Hates Freedom the Most?

Who Hates Freedom?!!?

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He used to be a christian socialist, then a libertarian, then he became a leftist. The fact is, Watermark may never know what he is, and he may simply crave the attention of what he views as the in-crowd and the power-brokers of tomorrow, but so long as he continues to throw his lot in with the leftists, he is an enemy of freedom. Certainly not the worst on the list, as that distinction really does go to Midcan. Few people on this site, including Watermark, would dispute that.

I know there are many who would say SM or Dixie, Asshate would say its DQ, Yurt and USF would vote for each other (mostly just for fun), and so forth, but I don't think anyone truly hates freedom as Midcan5 does.
 
Threedee said:
He used to be a christian socialist, then a libertarian, then he became a leftist. The fact is, Watermark may never know what he is, and he may simply crave the attention of what he views as the in-crowd and the power-brokers of tomorrow, but so long as he continues to throw his lot in with the leftists, he is an enemy of freedom. Certainly not the worst on the list, as that distinction really does go to Midcan. Few people on this site, including Watermark, would dispute that.

I know there are many who would say SM or Dixie, Asshate would say its DQ, Yurt and USF would vote for each other (mostly just for fun), and so forth, but I don't think anyone truly hates freedom as Midcan5 does.
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You lack faith in our brother. And I really think it's a toss up between Mid and SM. They're pretty much the two sides of the same coin in hating freedom.
 
Caboose said:
You lack faith in our brother. And I really think it's a toss up between Mid and SM. They're pretty much the two sides of the same coin in hating freedom.
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At least SM doesn't try to push his book-of-the-month club...

BTW, its "junk" to you in the other thread.
 
Threedee said:
He used to be a christian socialist, then a libertarian, then he became a leftist. The fact is, Watermark may never know what he is, and he may simply crave the attention of what he views as the in-crowd and the power-brokers of tomorrow, but so long as he continues to throw his lot in with the leftists, he is an enemy of freedom. Certainly not the worst on the list, as that distinction really does go to Midcan. Few people on this site, including Watermark, would dispute that.

I know there are many who would say SM or Dixie, Asshate would say its DQ, Yurt and USF would vote for each other (mostly just for fun), and so forth, but I don't think anyone truly hates freedom as Midcan5 does.
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he's more intelligent than a noahide globalist killbot freakshow like yourself.
 
Caboose said:
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I knew I said that, never denied it, just wanted to make you fools work at it a bit.

You don't have a right for "personal freedom" when it infringes on my "personal freedom". My right to breathe clean air overrides yours to smoke in a public place.
 
Threedee said:
He used to be a christian socialist, then a libertarian, then he became a leftist. The fact is, Watermark may never know what he is, and he may simply crave the attention of what he views as the in-crowd and the power-brokers of tomorrow, but so long as he continues to throw his lot in with the leftists, he is an enemy of freedom. Certainly not the worst on the list, as that distinction really does go to Midcan. Few people on this site, including Watermark, would dispute that.

I know there are many who would say SM or Dixie, Asshate would say its DQ, Yurt and USF would vote for each other (mostly just for fun), and so forth, but I don't think anyone truly hates freedom as Midcan5 does.
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STOP this common sense and logic. It has NO place in this thread. :pke:
 
Southern Man said:
I knew I said that, never denied it, just wanted to make you fools work at it a bit.

You don't have a right for "personal freedom" when it infringes on my "personal freedom". My right to breathe clean air overrides yours to smoke in a public place.
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so your 'right' to breathe clean air overrides my 'right' to run my business for the best profit and clientele?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
I realize that, I'm not sure SM does, since his right to fresh air is more important than my right to run a private business.
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Here's how it works, as per Natural Rights.

Life comes first.
Then liberty comes next.
Last comes property, of which ownership is a specific liberty. You cannot own slaves or restrict movement (broader liberty), and you cannot place people's lives at risk without consent (workers in hazardous conditions, etc.).

The question is, does your specific use of your right to property directly lead to SM being denied his right to life? If so, his argument wins. If not, then he has no argument.
 
Threedee said:
Here's how it works, as per Natural Rights.

Life comes first.
Then liberty comes next.
Last comes property, of which ownership is a specific liberty. You cannot own slaves or restrict movement (broader liberty), and you cannot place people's lives at risk without consent (workers in hazardous conditions, etc.).

The question is, does your specific use of your right to property directly lead to SM being denied his right to life? If so, his argument wins. If not, then he has no argument.
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is he forced at gunpoint to eat in my restaurant?
 
SmarterThanYou said:
you said this

so basically you are saying that YOUR personal freedom is more important than my personal freedom.

thank you for your display of liberal elitism.
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Just like your right to swing your fist ends at my nose, so too does your right to pollute end at my lungs. This makes it so people can make rules restricting your right to pollute so they can continue to enjoy their addiction to oxygen, or to make rules (like in some few bars still) that if you don't like the pollution you can leave the bar... Where your right to make such rules ends, is at your property line (we're back to right of privacy again)... and where the government fails to understand that their right to protect everybody from all their decisions ends...
 
Damocles said:
Just like your right to swing your fist ends at my nose, so too does your right to pollute end at my lungs. This makes it so people can make rules restricting your right to pollute so they can continue to enjoy their addiction to oxygen, or to make rules (like in some few bars still) that if you don't like the pollution you can leave the bar... Where your right to make such rules ends, is at your property line (we're back to right of privacy again)... and where the government fails to understand that their right to protect everybody from all their decisions ends...
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so i'll ask the question again, does his right to breathe fresh air override my right to allow smoking in my bar?
 
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