White climate Nazis deface STONE HENGE - I will never support these self righteous authoritarian White Libs, They are pure EVIL

[Hawkeye10]

That terrorism is ramping up as the West dies is about the least surprising thing ever.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

You forgot your sacrment of calling me a "cunt".

silly cunts object to my choice of words but support a president than lets illegals rape and murder Americans.........you people are less than dog shit.....

 

[Into the Night]

Wow. So bad people doing bad things in service to a good cause makes the cause bad. Got it.

So when Neo-Nazis protest alongside Conservatives in a "Unite the Right" rally does it make Conservatism a Nazi cause?

Just checking to make sure you have a clear understanding of what your reasoning appears to be.

What is the 'good cause'? Vandalism is not a good cause.
The Nazis were socialists, like Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

That's all you got? Seriously? You don't know much about the science, so I guess just random shitposting is all you are left with.

Try something new and original: take a science class.

No, you can't just discard the 1st law of thermodynamics that way! Science is not a class.

No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You cannot create energy out of nothing.

 

[Into the Night]

Actually, it's you that doesn't know much about science, and yes, "climate change" as proposed by the IPCC is mostly bullshit science.

It is not science at all.

 

[Into the Night]

What, specifically do I not understand:

1. CO2 is a known greenhouse gas (known since 1850)

No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You cannot create energy out of nothing. You are still ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.

2. We know the increase in atmospheric CO2 right now is due largely to human activity (12-C/13-C isotope values)

It is not possible to measure the global atmospheric content of CO2 or where it comes from.

3. Natural forcings are insufficient to explain the increased warming but when you include human forcings (eg greenhouse gas emissions, land use changes, etc.) the data makes sense.

There are no 'forcings' because climate is not a force. Neither is CO2 or any other 'greenhouse gas'. It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

Which part am I missing?

Nothing. You have quoted your scripture as required by your religion.

 

[Into the Night]

Water vapor is a known greenhouse gas.
Methane is a known greenhouse gas.

Increasing CO2 from next to nonexistent to slightly more than nonexistent is irrelevant.

There is no such thing as a 'greenhouse gas' (except as a religious artifact). No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth.

The entirety of the northern hemisphere where most anthropogenic warming is attributed is covered by a thin layer of contrails from jet aircraft 24/7 365 and water vapor is a far more effective as a greenhouse gas than CO2 is. Also, contrails have only been around since the 1930's and have increased exponentially since. But nobody's paying for contrail research... Go figure...

No contrail, liquid water, water vapor, ice cloud, methane, or CO2 is capable of warming the Earth. You cannot create energy out of nothing.

Then toss in that most climate measuring stations are in increasingly urban areas where urban heat island effect is occurring, and you get yet another issue that isn't being accounted for.

So?

There is no such thing as a 'climate measuring station'. Climate has no values associated with it. It can't be measured.

 

[Into the Night]

And excess water vapor

There is no such thing as 'excess water vapor'.

can be quickly re-equilibrated out of the system

Buzzword fallacy.

through precipitation.

Water vapor is not liquid water.

It is considered by scientists to be more related to feedback than direct forcing.

Water vapor is not a force. There is no 'feedback'.

Yes, a much, much worse greenhouse gas.

No gas or vapor has the capability to warm the Earth. You are still ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.

I can name probably a dozen chemicals that in teeeeeeensy tiny doses can do great damage.

To what?

Your personal incredulity at small numbers doesn't really mean anything.

You don't get to declare 'credibility' for everyone. Omniscience fallacy.

And, again, on planet earth where I live when excess H2O

There is no such thing as 'excess H2O'.

gets into the system it can quickly get out.

There is no 'system' here.

It is called the HYDROLOGIC CYCLE

Does nothing to the temperature of the Earth. You cannot create energy out of nothing. You are still ignoring the 1st law of thermodynamics.

which is VERY different from the CARBON CYCLE which is needed to remove excess CO2 or CH4 from the atmosphere.

There is no such thing as 'excess CO2' or 'excess CH4'. There is no 'should be'. You don't get to declare what is 'normal' for anyone or anything. Omniscience fallacy.

And, again, this has been shown to NOT impact the temperature trends.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. There is no 'trend'. Base rate fallacy.

Studies like Peterson (2008) showed no statistical impact of urban heat island effect on the overall data trend.

it is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

And even NOAA's study in which poorly sited stations per Anthony Watt's selection, were removed from the data and it was shown to have no effect on the overall trend.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.

I suggest you do more literature reading.

Literature is not a measurement.

It has been EXPLICITLY studied repeatedly. Again, your literature review needs to be updated.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. There is NO DATA. There is nothing to 'study'.

 

[Into the Night]

How will humans stop the Earth's climate change, ongoing throughout its history ??

Easy. Climate cannot change.

 

[Into the Night]

There's a lot to unpack in that statement:

1. There have been changes in earth's climate throughout history and before humans it was all natural forcings. It's how we know how the natural forcings work. Now the warming we see cannot be accounted for by those natural forcings alone. We need another factor and that factor just happens to be human activity.

2. No one thinks you are going to alter the movement of continents or alter the natural forcings but we CAN and SHOULD alter the human forcings which are fully under our control. To do otherwise is to not take responsibility for our actions. That is antithetical to my morality.

Climate cannot change.
There are no 'forcings'. Climate is not a force.

 

[Into the Night]

and yet the current instance of global warming is less extreme than other instances of the cycle evidenced by ice core samples.......predating human activity.......

it is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. Ice cores do not measure temperature or the temperature of the Earth. You don't know what human activity was taking place when the ice was formed.

 

[Into the Night]

Where did I lie about Conservatives? The Unite the Right rally had it in the name.

Personally I don't think all Conservatives are Nazis but what I hear from the Conservatives is "All environmentally conscious people are equal to the absolute worst loons among them". So I can only assume that if the Conservatives think that then I am honor bound to return the favor.

That's all my point was. I'm not surprised it is so advanced you can understand it.

The Nazi party were socialists, like Democrats.

 

[Into the Night]

not at all......we both know there is nothing humanity can do that will change the climate, even if we knew what we wanted to change it to........

It's not possible to change it. Climate cannot change. There is no such thing as a 'global' climate.

 

[Into the Night]

NASA has admitted that they do not understand the impact of CLOUDS (water vapor). They just fudge the numbers in order to get the flawed computer models to produce the desired results.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Clouds are not water vapor. They are liquid water or ice.
Clouds cannot change the temperature of the Earth. No gas or vapor has the capability to warm or cool the Earth.

You cannot create energy out of nothing. You cannot destroy energy into nothing.

 

[Into the Night]

The oldest city discovered is an anomaly at about 12,000 years old.

The "stable" Holocene is only about 10k years old. It too, is an anomaly as the longest interglacial in probably 2 million years, at least 800k years.

We are currently in only Earth's 3rd ICEHOUSE. The Earth hasn't been THIS COLD in 260 million years!

Natural forcings are NOT understood. Milankovitch Cycles predict 40K year glacial cycles. For the last 2 million years, our glaciation cycles have happened approximately every 100K years.

We can not measure the heat contained in the oceans. We don't understand deep water currents. We can only estimate that they have 1,000 year cycles. IIRC, about 950,000 years ago, the ocean circulation slowed causing the Earth to skip an interglacial. Clearly, the deep currents affect the climate, too.

Plankton can actually create their own weather. Plankton are massive Carbon sequesters. Plankton populations have fallen in half since 1950.

The impact of the great decimation of the whale population over the last 500 years is unknown. The impact (reduction in dust) of the decimation of herds of large land animals is unknown. The cause of Little Ice Age is unproved speculation. It is unknown.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Carbon is not carbon dioxide.

No gas or vapor has the capability to warm or cool the Earth.

 

[Kafka]

silly cunts object to my choice of words but support a president than lets illegals rape and murder Americans.........you people are less than dog shit.....

"lets illegals rape and murder Americans". Hyperbole much?

Is this more of your patented "Lying for God"? I've heard that in your religion that is allowed.

 

[ZenMode]

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth.
Carbon is not carbon dioxide.

No gas or vapor has the capability to warm or cool the Earth.

It is possible to measure the temperature of the earth.

Carbon is not CO2

If the earth didn't have a gaseous atmosphere, humans wouldn't exist. If the atmosphere of the earth was made up of different gasses, in different concentrations, we also wouldn't exist.

So, gases do impact the temperature of the atmosphere above the Earth's surface.....which is where temperature is measured.

 

[ZenMode]

The Nazi party were socialists, like Democrats.

".....socialists...."

I don't think you know what that word means.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

"lets illegals rape and murder Americans". Hyperbole much?

Is this more of your patented "Lying for God"? I've heard that in your religion that is allowed.

all the Demmycrats can do is hide their heads and deny the truth.......

 

[Kafka]

all the Demmycrats can do is hide their heads and deny the truth.......

Do you get another golden crown in heaven when you lie for God? Is that how it works?