Why Should Anyone Believe in Global Warming?

[IBDaMann]

Not your made up definition, dumbass.

Sorry, moron. Your exact words were "Define climate." My definition is all I can provide when I define something. You should have learned this in your deaf studies.

Now that I have extended to you the courtesy of defining Climate for you per your request, it is up to you to either offer a better definition or agree to use the one I offered.

 

[ZenMode]

There is no such thing as 'net energy movement'. You cannot heat a 100 degree rock with a 70 degree room.

Where did I say anything about heating the rock in a colder room? Oh, that's right, I didn't because that would be silly.

 

[AProudLefty]

Right. That, as has been repeatedly noted, is the sun's job.

Except for the core.

 

[AProudLefty]

Sorry, moron. Your exact words were "Define climate." My definition is all I can provide when I define something. You should have learned this in your deaf studies.

Now that I have extended to you the courtesy of defining Climate for you per your request, it is up to you to either offer a better definition or agree to use the one I offered.

Too easy.

cli·mate
/ˈklīmət/
noun
the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.
"our cold, wet climate"

And short!

 

[IBDaMann]

Hint: once equilibrium has reached, the temperature will stop rising.

Then this should be the case with earth. But "nay" you say. You claim the earth's average temperature spontaneously increases after having achieved equilibrium temperature. How do you explain your position

Returning to the pizza in the oven scenario. If the oven were instead filled with 95% CO2 and then preheated to 475 degrees Fahrenheit, would the pizza achieve runaway greenhouse effect?

 

[IBDaMann]

Too easy.

cli·mate
/ˈklīmət/
noun
the weather conditions prevailing in an area in general or over a long period.
"our cold, wet climate"

And short!

Houston, we have a problem. The definition calls for prevailing weather, but your example "cold, wet" does not contain any weather. You should have noticed this discrepancy when you performed your due diligence, PRIOR to posting.

Besides, you're supposed to know that "climate" is not "weather" ... and you are supposed to know the difference.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The Sun.

You'd think an expert on thermodynamics would understand why the sunny side of the Moon can be 250F while the night side can drop to below -200F.

https://www.space.com/18175-moon-temperature.html

The temperature on the moon can reach a blistering 250° Fahrenheit (120° Celsius or 400 Kelvin) during lunar daytime at the moon's equator, and plummet to -208 degrees F (-130° C, 140 K) at night.

In certain spots near the moon's poles temperatures can drop even further, reaching - 424° F (- 253°C or 20 K) according to NASA.

 

[ZenMode]

Except for the core.

Earth's core? Yes. I thought about bringing that up previously, but decided against it. There's already enough confusion about fairly simple thermodynamics laws. No need to throw anything else into the equation.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I guess The Sock thinks ZenMode is Sybil.

Mantra 41 Idiocracy

Sybil isn't here.

Sybil isn't here.

Is Sybil transgender?

 

[ZenMode]

You are still locked in paradox. Which is it, dude?

There is no paradox when you have a correct understanding.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Your English comprehension sucks. When will the pizza's temperature increase after it reaches equilibrium temperature, assuming the oven settings remain the same?

Mantra 56 Delusional denial of the obvious

Mantra 1a.

Mantra 4a.

One of the "miscellaneous" documents on that site is Into the Night's mantra list.

 

[AProudLefty]

Then this should be the case with earth.

See? You persist in the notion that I do not understand your point. The Sun's radiation does not increase, therefore, it does not increase the Earth's temperature (this is a simplistic view).

But "nay" you say. You claim the earth's average temperature spontaneously increases after having achieved equilibrium temperature. How do you explain your position

Again, you persist in that absurd notion that I do not understand. I am aware that the Earth is in a state of equilibrium.

Here's a question for you: what do you think will happen if the Earth doesn't rotate?

Returning to the pizza in the oven scenario. If the oven were instead filled with 95% CO2 and then preheated to 475 degrees Fahrenheit, would the pizza achieve runaway greenhouse effect?

If the oven door is open and the CO2 surrounds it like a blanket, it will get hotter with no way of heat escaping.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Continued paradox.

Mantra 63 Babbling Bullshit

Mantra 1a.

Mantra 4a.

One of the "miscellaneous" documents on that site is Into the Night's mantra list.

 

[AProudLefty]

Earth's core? Yes. I thought about bringing that up previously, but decided against it. There's already enough confusion about fairly simple thermodynamics laws. No need to throw anything else into the equation.

You're right. It's complex enough as is.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Nope. What will happen if the heat is not allowed to leave the atmosphere?

If the concept hasn't sunk into Sybil's deranged brain by now, it never will just like his lack of understanding about the 2020 election.

There was no 2020 election TO lose

There was no election in 2020.

Summary of the stolen election:...

 

[AProudLefty]

If the concept hasn't sunk into Sybil's deranged brain by now, it never will just like his lack of understanding about the 2020 election.

It hasn't sunk that we DO understand his point. A closed system in a state of equilibrium will stay the same overall.

 

[IBDaMann]

He claims to be an expert in thermodynamics.

I'm still waiting on that link, or an admission that you misspoke.

 

[AProudLefty]

I'm still waiting on that link, or an admission that you misspoke.

So you admit you know nothing about thermodynamics?

Does it feel good to admit it?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It hasn't sunk that we DO understand his point. A closed system in a state of equilibrium will stay the same overall.

He babbles so much I stopped paying attention. It's like wading through a haystack hoping to find a needle.

I have no doubt Sybil is mentally ill.

 

[IBDaMann]

[the sun] does not increase the Earth's temperature (this is a simplistic view).

I saw that. You pivoted. You tried to sneak it in there in the hope that no one would notice, but I noticed. The question is about the earth's temperature and when it increases, but you pivoted to discussing the sun and emphasizing that the sun does not increase the earth's temperature. My entire conversation with ZenMode was premised on constant solar output.

Assuming one accounts for changes/fluctuations in solar output and earth's proximity to the sun, does the earth's average temperature ever increase due to atmospheric composition?