Debunking Covid stupidity part one: Vaccines DO slow the spread

Concart said:
Sorry, the CDC says you are lying. I don't care if a hospital 'accepts' natural immunity as well as vaccination. Vaccines provide more immunity. Period. End of story. Bye now.
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The CDC is basing its opinion on a single small scale study. The Israel study was 700,000 persons. The Washington Post quotes from 15 other study that have similar results as does the Israeli study.
 
ExpressLane said:
I n the last 14 days NY had a 41% increase and Florida had a 21% increase.

New York State
14-day change: 41% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 20
71.5% vaccinated

Florida
14-day change: 21% increase
Hospitalizations per 100,000 people: 8
63.1% vaccinated
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IN HOSPITALIZATIONS. NOT IN CASES. Just stop posting. You are too fucking stupid. Seriously. I'm embarrassed for you.
 
ExpressLane said:
The CDC is basing its opinion on a single small scale study. The Israel study was 700,000 persons. The Washington Post quotes from 15 other study that have similar results as does the Israeli study.
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The immunity waned in less than two months.

Next?
 
ExpressLane said:
Natural immunity last for at least 11 months and was found to be superior to vaccinated immunity.
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ROTFLMFAO!!!!!! Delta hasn't even been AROUND for 11 months, and those studies were done in the first half of 2021. I was right. You are too stupid to post here.
 
ExpressLane said:
Its a state to state direct comparison. Now what excuse for the difference are you going to make? Florida obviously protects their more at risk populations than NY does. Who cares if the not at risk population catches and recovers from COVID. The virus is going to virus.
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You said you factored in variables. I asked you to be more specific, and you moved the goalposts.

I don't think you factored in any other variables.
 
Concart said:
IN HOSPITALIZATIONS. NOT IN CASES. Just stop posting. You are too fucking stupid. Seriously. I'm embarrassed for you.
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I have pointed out fewer people are hospitalized for 100,000 cases in Florida. What do we care if people catch it recover without hospitalization. I'm not concerned if people catch a cold and recover without getting sick enough to get hospitalized.
 
ExpressLane said:
I have pointed out fewer people are hospitalized for 100,000 cases in Florida. What do we care if people catch it recover without hospitalization. I'm not concerned if people catch a cold and recover without getting sick enough to get hospitalized.
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OH MY FUCKING GOD. You aren't serious. The cases are TOO NEW for the individuals to be hospitalized yet. They haven't recovered. Are you really this obtuse? Good God. That's frightening.
 
ExpressLane said:
I have pointed out fewer people are hospitalized for 100,000 cases in Florida. What do we care if people catch it recover without hospitalization. I'm not concerned if people catch a cold and recover without getting sick enough to get hospitalized.
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If the vaccine keeps people from getting hospitalized when they catch it - we care.
 
BartenderElite said:
You said you factored in variables. I asked you to be more specific, and you moved the goalposts.

I don't think you factored in any other variables.
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I told you obviously Florida protects its at risk populations like the elderly. That is very specific. Of the people that do catch COVID fewer of them require hospitalization in Florida because they are healthier to start with as a group. Why do you think Florida has fewer hospitalization per 100,000 cases than NY and other places do.
 
Concart said:
BECAUSE IT DIDN'T EXIST. I can't do it. On ignore with you. You are a brainless twit.
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Delta existed for some of that time period but the people with natural immunity didn't catch it for the most part. God you are stupid. :rofl2:


In all models we evaluated four outcomes: SARS-CoV-2 infection, symptomatic disease, COVID-19-related hospitalization and death. The follow-up period of June 1 to August 14, 2021, when the Delta variant was dominant in Israel.
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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021.
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Concart said:
IN HOSPITALIZATIONS. NOT IN CASES. Just stop posting. You are too fucking stupid. Seriously. I'm embarrassed for you.
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  • the Moderna vaccine is approximately 50 to 95 percent effective against Delta, and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is 39 to 96 percent effective against Delta.

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Concart is a moron of a stooge.
 
anatta said:
no you are NOT free to choose-
not without consequences with a mandate. stop being a simpleton by ignoring the obvious
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Yet you are free to choose.

You can choose not to comply with the mandate, and find yourself employment by working for a company in a State where mandates are illegal, or just form your own business.

The economy is a' changin'.
 
Concart said:
Yes, every fucking choice has consequences. You want yours to be consequence free. Tough shit, pal. Doesn't work that way.
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Choices don't fuck. Apparently no one ever told what DOES fuck.

You are describing a choice that doesn't exist, as if it were a choice. Redefinition fallacy.
 
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