Democrats Move to Disenfranchise Voters in 46 States
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They can vote, it's just that their vote won't count/
To take away the EC would deny people in Montana any voice in presidential elections. You know this - and it is the reason you want to end the EC.
Without fences, there are no families - just people. The greatest number of people will dictate to all what to do. You suggest mob rule with those on distant places ruled by the cities that have no concept of their lives - all so you can have one party rule.
If we had an EC in California, it would not be the shithole it is today.
False. I explained the math in another post.
How do you buy liquor? How do you get your SNAP card? How do you use your EBT card?
See, you're a liar. ID is needed for everything. Low lifes like you need ID every single day. You don't want ID used in voting because it stops voter fraud - period.
ZenMode
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With the electoral college, some people's votes count more than others. For example, a vote in Wyoming counts twice that of a vote in California
Without the electoral college, everyone's vote counts equally. It's one vote. With the electoral college, a vote in Wyoming counts double that of a vote in California.
Without the electoral college, imaginary state lines are irrelevant, just as county lines are relevant in state elections. Every person who wants to vote can vote and their votes all count equally as one. Where are you live becomes irrelevant.
Diogenes
Nemo me impune lacessit
Checkerboard Strangler
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Good, then you should be happy, because if you're sure you'll keep getting that every election then this should sound like a sure thing.
You should be excited.
Checkerboard Strangler
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Tell you what, trade the EC as it is currently, hold it safe from any changes, in trade for wiping out Citizens United, McCutcheon v. FEC, reinvigorate and restore all of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and settle the question of electoral district mapping (sometimes aka gerrymandering) by permanently handing the decisions over to nonpartisan state committees who will render by population.
That puts us back to when "America Was Great" because in 1965 that's pretty much how it operated for the most part.
And you can keep the Electoral College, unless of course the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact wipes out its influence anyway.
I get the funny feeling that in about two years the NPVIC is going to be pretty healthy, it's currently at 209 electoral votes, which is 39% of the Electoral College and 77% of the 270 votes needed to give the compact legal force.
Your brain is a lost cause.
Communist propaganda.
The Constitution was written with the states electing the president. It was never a popular vote, If it had been the people of Rhode Island would have never joined the union - to be utterly voiceless and no different than they were under the crown.
Simply not true. A vote in Wyoming has meaning only in Wyoming. When the STATES elect the president - then Wyoming only has two votes, while California has 53 votes.
False - the concerns of those who raise our food and drill our oil are ignored with only the densely populated cities having a voice.
Kamaltoe already ignored anything that wasn't a mass population center - imagine the reaction if the voters in Wyoming were swamped by just Compton or Watts in LA? The concerns and wishes of those that you seek to disenfranchise would be of no concern at all.
Not a true statement.
Yes, one big collective ruled by the central authority. I've read Marx - I know what you seek.
ZenMode
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"Simply not true. A vote in Wyoming has meaning only in Wyoming. When the STATES elect the president - then Wyoming only has two votes, while California has 53 votes."
It is true, because of the ratio of electoral votes to population, a vote in Wyoming counts double that of a vote in CA.
No person or profession should have a bigger say in elections. In state governor elections, they don't do EC for counties where farmers votes count more than other votes. That would be ridiculous.
Here's some info.
Electoral votes and population: Why one electoral vote accounts for 195,000 people in Wyoming and over 700,000 people in Texas, Florida or California.
Representation in the Electoral College: How do states compare? | USAFacts
Our nation, in numbers. USAFacts provides a comprehensive, nonpartisan view of the state of our union.
usafacts.org
Tbird19482
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I don't get snap for one thing and I got my ID hell over 60 years ago and I do drive and I can get to the DMV but there are people that do not drive and when the DMV is 20 miles away and that is where you have to go to get an ID it can be very difficult for some people to get there.
And another thing FUCK FACE I never said people did not need ID. EVER and IF you think I did then find where I did and post it.
YOU are a lying POS.
Tbird19482
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Do you even have one?
the way you post on here it SURE doesn't seem like it.
Look you scroungy little nitwit. You constantly yap on and on about shit that isn't real. Your mind is like an LP skipping.
Will you ever take a moment and realize you're being a fool about your president?
Crepitus
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How does making it a straight up fight "disenfranchise voters"?
Tbird19482
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GO FUCK YOURSELF ASSHOLE.
Get mental health care. Something is really fucked up with you.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
WHY the popular vote is not used to select presidents!
Neoclitorus
Best
they are actually.
Tbird19482
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Well people think smaller states won't get their say on who they want to be President.
When everybody would be voting and everybody's vote would count.
As it is now IMO the Winner take all BS should be stopped and if they want to keep the EC, have it go on Congressional districts , as I said before IF you are in a state that has 27 districts all you need to take all the EC votes for that state is 14 of those districts, and in states like NY if you get say NYC to go for one candidate the rest of the state doesn't matter , and those peoples votes don't really matter.
IF they want to keep the EC then get rid of Winner take all, I believe 49 out of 50 states use it.