Guno צְבִי
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1932 was a pivotal year in the Nazis’ ascent. It’s a terrifying parallel for today
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IBDaMann
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1932 was a pivotal year in the Nazis’ ascent. It’s a terrifying parallel for today
What these parallels teach us: When an unpopular political movement is poised to retain power it suspects it cannot legitimately maintain, democracy is endangered, with dire consequences for all Israelis. As the seeming inevitability of Netanyahu's election has increased with the pursuance of the 2nd Nakba, and the ethnic cleansing of Arab Gazans — a feather in Netanyahu's cap after a dismal restructuring of Israel's judiciary, led the Likud unity coalition to its highest polling numbers since 2015 — the seriousness of this threat cannot be overstated.
And it’s not just increased RACISM against Arab Semites that has enhanced Likud's seeming inevitability. Even more effective was the defiant invulnerability embodied after an attack by Al Qassam in October. Rolling out of Israel with feigned anger and rage and superior weaponry raised high, the double role Israel prefers — that of both Holocaust victim and Holocaust perpetrator, whose righteous path is now marked out — seems newly clarified, and newly persuasive.
What these parallels teach us: When an unpopular political movement is poised to retain power it suspects it cannot legitimately maintain, democracy is endangered, with dire consequences for all Israelis. As the seeming inevitability of Netanyahu's election has increased with the pursuance of the 2nd Nakba, and the ethnic cleansing of Arab Gazans — a feather in Netanyahu's cap after a dismal restructuring of Israel's judiciary, led the Likud unity coalition to its highest polling numbers since 2015 — the seriousness of this threat cannot be overstated.
And it’s not just increased RACISM against Arab Semites that has enhanced Likud's seeming inevitability. Even more effective was the defiant invulnerability embodied after an attack by Al Qassam in October. Rolling out of Israel with feigned anger and rage and superior weaponry raised high, the double role Israel prefers — that of both Holocaust victim and Holocaust perpetrator, whose righteous path is now marked out — seems newly clarified, and newly persuasive.
The idea of a ‘unified Reich’
The sense of certainty offers a huge psychological advantage to the Likud party, during which it has sought to paint a picture of a unified coalition rallying it in protest of Netanyahu's "victimization" of Israel by high profile politicians. Likud has promised, if it is successful in installing its unity coalition, to finish the Arab eradication that was only anemically advanced by Netanyahu.Direct Parallel to Nazi Germany
There’s a clear parallel to the rhetoric that fueled the Nazis’ rise. They billed themselves as speaking for the Germans who felt they had been stabbed in the back during World War I by domestic criminals, including Marxists, profiteers and Jews. Their vision was at once optimistic and conspiratorial; once the swamp was drained, new glories would emerge.
Says the stupid terrorist.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
It doesn't violate his law...if he says it doesn't.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
Godwin says that it is TOTALLY APPROPRIATE in the case of Trump...to use Hitler comparisons.
Any sane, intelligent person knows that even without Godwin's input.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
:cough cough: Bullshit :cough:
Take your cough up with Godwin. He was very clear about how he felt about the Trump/Hitler comparison. But then again, Godwin is an intelligent, sane person...so he would feel that way.
The MAGA morons have a problem with that.
Matt Dillon
Semolina comes from wheat
Link-? NM, he did say that. Sad.
Tbird19482
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and the right wingers can't see anything wrong with this.
Heck the far right MAGAS and Conservatives are backing Trump just like the Conservatives of the 1930's backed Hitler.
and we all know how that worked out for everybody
Have a nice day
T. A. Gardner
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Now that's the stuff of Godwin's Law...
Matt, the guy he chose for his vice president...compared him to Hitler!Link-? NM, he did say that. Sad.
Seems to me to be a reasonable thing to do.
SlaveForChrist
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Pretty sure it's currently the left spewing anti-jew and anti-Israel hate at the moment...What these parallels teach us: When an unpopular political movement is poised to take power it suspects it cannot legitimately maintain, democracy is endangered, with dire consequences for all of us. As the seeming inevitability of Trump’s election has increased with the Supreme Court’s recent ruling granting presidents immunity from prosecution for official acts undertaken in office — a feather in Trump’s cap after a dismal debate performance by President Joe Biden led Trump to his highest polling numbers since 2015 — the seriousness of this threat cannot be overstated.
And it’s not just increased legal immunity that has enhanced Trump’s seeming inevitability. Even more effective was the defiant invulnerability he appeared to embody after an assassination attempt on him last weekend. Leaving that Pennsylvania field, blood streaming from one ear and fist raised high, the double role Trump prefers — that of both a victim, and a savior whose righteous path is now marked out — seemed newly clarified, and newly persuasive.
The idea of a ‘unified Reich’
The sense of certainty offers a huge psychological advantage to Trump’s campaign, during which he has sought to paint a picture of a unified America rallying behind him in protest of his victimization by state and federal prosecutors. He has promised, if he wins in November, to vindicate not just himself, but all the victims of the supposed damage wrought by tone-deaf elites under Biden.
There are identifiable culprits who have ruined America, he tells his followers, promising that they will be held accountable and locked up. He has referred to “military tribunals,” and the strong hands that will also repair “American carnage.” As he depicts a fateful struggle for the soul of the country, the muscular populism he preaches is pure melodrama. It casts purposeful redeemers against terrible villains. In Trump’s view, the U.S. resembles a crime scene in which order can and must be restored, through police action if necessary.
There’s a clear parallel to the rhetoric that fueled the Nazis’ rise. They billed themselves as speaking for the Germans who felt they had been stabbed in the back during World War I by domestic criminals, including Marxists, profiteers and Jews. Their vision was at once optimistic and conspiratorial; once the swamp was drained, new glories would emerge.
1932 was a pivotal year in the Nazis' ascent. It's a terrifying parallel for today
The Nazis' rise took a turn in 1932. As Trump seeks a second term, the lessons he might take from Hitler's political playbook are alarming.forward.com
And you complained that you were referred to as a Yid.
T. A. Gardner
Thread Killer
It's a quoting out of context fallacy used to make a strawman argument. But other than that, it's largely irrelevant.
Tbird19482
Verified User
what??
it is a FACT that the Conservatives backed Hitler in the 1930's and helped put him in power, if you would read some history you would know that.
and NOW the Conservatives are backing Trump.
and as I said we all know how the Conservatives backing Hitler turned out.
and it doesn't look like it will be any better for them this time
Have a nice day
T. A. Gardner
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This is erroneous. The Left in Germany backed Hitler in a coalition that allowed him to become chancellor. Hindenburg, head of the Social Democrat party in Germany, formed a coalition with the NAZI party and allowed Hitler (whose party came in second in seats in the Reichstag) to be named Chancellor.
Amounts to a strawman argument.
We all don't know that, and anyone that bothers with history knows that isn't true.
Tbird19482
Verified User
can you answer a question and give an honest answer?
did or did not the German Conservatives back Hitler with lots of money and helped put him in power ?
and what are they doing now they are backing Trump and he is just as bad as Hitler was
have a nice day
T. A. Gardner
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No. German conservatives did not back Hitler. Hitler gained power through a coalition with other Leftist parties in Germany.
Complex question fallacy. Trump is not as bad as Hitler, Godwin's Law fallacy on your part.