Birth Right Citizenship Will It Finally End?

[Poor Richard Saunders]

I think you missed the point AGAIN. You're a special kind of moron little Dicky. Read it again and maybe just maybe it will sink in, but we all know that's not happening. lol

You need to use that Jesus as your cudgel if you want to get into the heaven you seem to desire.

Nothing on the internet is ever gone. It will stay on your personal record and be there when you get to the Pearly Gates.

 

[Into the Night]

they're valid words, ass felcher.

But you don't know what they mean. Go learn English.

get an argument and stop being an infected butt plug.

You aren't making an argument.

 

[Tobytone]

You need to use that Jesus as your cudgel if you want to get into the heaven you seem to desire.

Nothing on the internet is ever gone. It will stay on your personal record and be there when you get to the Pearly Gates.

It's worse than I ever thought. A truly mentally challenged individual here. How dumb can a person be?

"Oh no, the internet will keep these sins of mine permanently. What luck that I live in these times of memory devices that never forget. God can now just look through my browsing history, damn it, I'm doomed. Poor little Dicky has ruined my journey to heaven and ensured my place in hell. Well, not really him, but the damn internet with it's memory. ROFLMAO Oh boy, what's next?

 

[Into the Night]

When was Kim Wong Ark born?
How well do you know your Constitution?

He knows it a hell of a lot better than you do!

 

[Into the Night]

Hey dipshit. There are no references that forbid elephants from being citizens either, but I don't see anyone suggesting that.....yet. lol It's what it does say that's in dispute by you idiots, no one except libtard idiots (you) are bringing up every possible thing it doesn't say, brilliant.

As for the evolution examples, find one thing that's not accurate. Your such a complete moron for not understanding the point with the 'smartwatch' comparison. I suspect you're referencing other 'inaccuracies' like that one. It's not my fault you're an idiot. LOL I can't fix that.

Here's the deal with you idiots who refuse to see the real-world consequences. I never said the 14th Amendment turns the whole family into instant citizens, don't put words in my mouth. But I did give you an analogy because, clearly, you need simple explanations. The moment a baby pops out on U.S. soil, BAM INSTANTLY, Mommy gets to stick around (and will become a citizen along with the whole family). And when that kid grows up, they'll drag the rest of the family in under the guise of 'family reunification,' and Mommy never had to pack her bags.

That's how it plays out in practice, you naive simpleton. The 14th Amendment kicks this whole charade into gear, and without the absurd take on the original intent including criminals from foreign lands to have the protections of the constitution, these families would be stuck at the back of an endless queue, where they rightfully belong. But no, we've got to pander to the simpletons like you. Hopefully, not anymore.


As I've explained to you, which should be clear to anyone with half a brain, you're just too dense to get it. Anything that's good for America, you're against because you're nothing but a typical anti-American, libtard automaton. You can't wrap your head around the absurdity of someone just waltzing into your home, dropping a baby into your bathtub, and then somehow, magically, both mother and child get to live there, FOREVER. Sure, technically, you could throw the mother out, but let's face it, you (and the U.S) would never do that because then you'd be stuck with the diaper duty. You claim you're all for 'Birth Rights Citizenship,' but I bet if this happened in your precious little sanctuary, you'd have a sudden change of heart.

Regardless of my opinion, and in spite of all your whining and crying like a little bitch, the EO will work its way to the SC for the final word on it. As Trump would say. 'We'll see what happens.' Maybe you should consider worrying about 100 other great things Trump is doing to dismantle the libtard lunacy. LOL

The final word on it is the Constitution itself.
The Supreme Court has NO authority over the Constitution. It cannot change it, delete it, and it never created it. It has no authority to 'interpret' any meaning. It cannot change the Constitution.

You are otherwise completely correct. The mother, being an illegal alien, is subject to deportation, along with the child, who never was a citizen.

 

[Into the Night]

If there is no jurisdiction, something cannot be illegal.

Go learn what 'subject of jurisdiction' means, Wally.

 

[Into the Night]

When the 14th Amendment was written, the US Government did not have jurisdiction over reservations,

It always had jurisdiction over reservations, Wally. The US government CREATED THEM!

or Native Americans who had not joined American society. Murders could be handled by the tribal government.

...or a US Marshal.

Starting in 1885, the federal government began taking jurisdiction,

It ALWAYS had jurisdiction, Wally. It CREATED the reservations, thanks to DEMOCRATS stealing their land. Go read about the Trail of Tears.

which required giving citizenship under the 14th Amendment.

There WAS NO 14th amendment when Jackson was President, Wally. He's the one that stole indian land for personal gain and started to put them on 'reservations'.

If your parents are under the jurisdiction to be tried for murder, then your birth is to parents under the jurisdiction.

Go learn what 'subject of jurisdiction' means, Wally.

The current situation is that tribal governments have police forces that are independent of the federal government.

Just like any region. US Marshals, and any other federal agency has authority. Indian reservations are federal land. They were ALL created by the federal government.

Also the FBI investigates serious crimes.

They also CAUSE serious crimes.

Minor crimes are tried in tribal courts, and serious crimes are tried in federal courts. For the most part states have no jurisdiction when it comes to reservations.

The Federal government does!

You are trying a strawman fallacy. It is irrelevant. NOTHING in the Constitution magickally confers citizenship on an illegal alien or their offspring.

 

[Into the Night]

It seems you are so delusional you think elephants are persons. The 14th amendment says "persons" born in the US become citizens.

No it doesn't. Go read it again, and learn what a 'subject of jurisdiction' is.

You are the one that claimed that you came up with the watch comparison all on your own. Not only are you stupid for your comparison, you are a liar for stealing the idea.

Bulverism fallacy. It doesn't matter where the argument comes from.

Actually, based on the way the English language works you DID say the whole family becomes citizens.

Mantra 30a. He never said any such thing. Blatant lie (syntheses).

Unless you are a proponent of LGBTQ+ and were using "they" to refer to one person "they" refers to the group you just listed in your sentence which was the entire family.

Strawman fallacy. Your word games won't work.

It's always nice to see you following the teachings of Christ and calling people names and lying.

Inversion fallacy.

Christ must be so proud of you or maybe he already called out people like you by telling us we shall know them by their fruits.

You don't get to speak for Jesus Christ. Omniscience fallacy.

Yep. You clearly are a toddler.

Paradox. Irrational. You cannot argue both sides of a paradox.

 

[Into the Night]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but birthright citizenship is the correct interpretation and will not change.

WRONG. Go learn what a 'subject of jurisdiction' means. NOTHING in the 14th amendment magickally confers citizenship on an illegal alien or their offspring. Illegal aliens broke the law. They are subject to deportation, along with their child.

At the heart of your error is an inability to read English for comprehension. All children born in the US are subject to US jurisdiction, even if the parents are somehow not, unless the child somehow has diplomatic immunity.

WRONG. Only those that are subjects of jurisdiction of the United States are citizens. Illegal aliens are NOT subjects of jurisdiction of the United States. They are subject of jurisdiction of their originating country. They broke the law coming here. They are subject to deportation, along with their child.

It is clearly stated to anyone who reads English for comprehension.

You are misquoting.

This only carries meaning for children born in an overseas consulate or embassy or other foreign location that nontheless is considered US territory.

WRONG. Go learn what a subject of jurisdiction is.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

It's worse than I ever thought. A truly mentally challenged individual here. How dumb can a person be?

"Oh no, the internet will keep these sins of mine permanently. What luck that I live in these times of memory devices that never forget. God can now just look through my browsing history, damn it, I'm doomed. Poor little Dicky has ruined my journey to heaven and ensured my place in hell. Well, not really him, but the damn internet with it's memory. ROFLMAO Oh boy, what's next?

Poor Toddler, doesn't even understand sarcasm.

 

[Into the Night]

It's worse than I ever thought. A truly mentally challenged individual here. How dumb can a person be?

"Oh no, the internet will keep these sins of mine permanently. What luck that I live in these times of memory devices that never forget. God can now just look through my browsing history, damn it, I'm doomed. Poor little Dicky has ruined my journey to heaven and ensured my place in hell. Well, not really him, but the damn internet with it's memory. ROFLMAO Oh boy, what's next?

The internet has no memory! It's a communications medium and a protocol.

Only the computers connected to it have a memory, and generally only as long as that computer or database lasts.

There simply isn't enough memory to store everything that happens on the internet...cheap as it is!

I really doubt Jesus Christ or anyone else is going to use the internet to judge you! He knows you better than the internet servers do! He will judge every man by His own means...even those born long before the internet even existed!

Poor Richard Sanders has revealed his hand. He does not know God or Jesus Christ or the power and authority they have. That is the ONLY explanation for his claim.

 

[Scut Farkus]

But you don't know what they mean. Go learn English.

You aren't making an argument.

you deny what words mean to serve your sociopathic agenda.

we can call things whatever you want, assboy.

 

[Into the Night]

Why?

It reads “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof”, not “or otherwise subject to the jurisdiction thereof”.

Do you understand the meaning of “jurisdiction”?

Do you understand the meaning of “and”?

An illegal alien is a subject of jurisdiction of the their originating nation. The broke the law coming here. They are subject to deportation back to their jurisdiction. They are NOT citizens of the United States. Any illegal alien mother that bears a child here is subject to deportation, along with her child.

 

[Into the Night]

you deny what words mean to serve your sociopathic agenda.

Buzzword fallacy. Go learn English.

we can call things whatever you want, assboy.

Are you having a schizophrenic episode? Who is 'we'???

 

[Into the Night]

The government cannot arrest someone who is not subject to their jurisdiction.

They certainly can, and have.

 

[Into the Night]

You aren't very well versed in Christianity. There are basically two schools of thought. One says believing in Christ is enough and the other says it is deeds that show belief. (By their deeds shall you know them.) The problem with people like you that claim to believe in Christ is you think that by simply saying you believe you can act as badly as you want to. Everyone may be a sinner but to truly believe you should at least make an attempt to not always act like you don't believe. You can lie to yourself about your beliefs all you want. You can't lie to God about them since he sees your deeds.

Because God used AI to scan the servers on the internet??
You don't get to usurp God's judgement. Omniscience fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Poor little toddler, thinks he can be saved by acting like a child all the time and attacking others and calling them names. Somehow he thinks it makes him closer to Christ.

So you condemn children. Are you aware that Jesus Christ held children innocent?

 

[Tobytone]

Poor Toddler, doesn't even understand sarcasm.

Yeah, I'd believe you were being sarcastic if you weren't such a dumbass. Your comment was right in line with everything you post. So, nice try dipshit.

 

[Into the Night]

Maybe he thinks if he acts like a toddler, Jesus will think he is an innocent child.

You obviously have no clue what Jesus Christ thinks.

 

[Tobytone]

The internet has no memory! It's a communications medium and a protocol.

Only the computers connected to it have a memory, and generally only as long as that computer or database lasts.

There simply isn't enough memory to store everything that happens on the internet...cheap as it is!

I really doubt Jesus Christ or anyone else is going to use the internet to judge you! He knows you better than the internet servers do! He will judge every man by His own means...even those born long before the internet even existed!

Poor Richard Sanders has revealed his hand. He does not know God or Jesus Christ or the power and authority they have. That is the ONLY explanation for his claim.

Sometimes I get a real kick out of your literal take on things, sincerely. I'm very aware that the internet is the least of my worries on judgement day. I'm also aware that I'll be there and have a ticket to enter through those pearly gates. lol