Enceladus, Saturn's ocean world

[evince]

Such a foul fool he can’t even keep his promise to go away

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Elitist scumbait who got his lunch ate continues to pout


Go away AGAIN

How did I get my "lunch ate"? I'm the only one on here who actually understands that salt water can exist as a liquid below 0degC.

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Such a foul fool he can’t even keep his promise to go away

Where did I promise to "go away"?

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Liquid water can't exist in that phase below 0 C, so it can't be that cold.

I'm familiar with how entropy depresses freezing point

LIAR

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Liquid water can't exist in that phase below 0 C

LOL. LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

 

[evince]

It's fun to read stuff by people who don't even know high school chemistry or that salts depress the freezing point of water.

By all means, enjoy your "discussion".

So this wasn’t you saying you would let us enjoy this discussion of science without your misplaced and compulsive hate?



You really are a horrible person with nothing good to offer mankind

 

[evince]

I suggest Cy start a new thread on this subject and ban you from it

 

[evince]

Scientists caught Saturn's icy moon Enceladus spraying a "huge plume" of watery vapor far into space — and that plume likely contains many of the chemical ingredients for life.

Scientists first learned of Enceladus' watery blasts in 2005, when NASA's Cassini spacecraft caught icy particles shooting up through large lunar cracks called "tiger stripes." The blasts are so powerful that their material forms one of Saturn's rings, according to NASA.

Analysis revealed that the jets contained methane, carbon dioxide and ammonia — organic molecules containing chemical building blocks necessary for the development of life. It's even possible that some of these gases were produced by life itself, burping out methane deep beneath the surface of Enceladus, an international team of researchers posited in research published last year in The Planetary Science Journal.



https://www.space.com/james-webb-telescope-discovers-gargantuan-geyser-on-saturn-moon

A truely important discovery that has some cool implications for the foundation of life on earth

 

[evince]

Isn't Saturn a bit on the cool side for sustaining life?

It was my impression that life would need to be on a planet situated very similarly to our earth in another solar system,
but then again, my exposure to the subject has been limited.

The existence of liquid water infers the tempatures

 

[evince]

Liquid water can't exist in that phase below 0 C, so it can't be that cold.

The watery core of Enceladus exists beneath a frozen crust, and my sense is that the interior of Enceladus is heated by gravitational tidal forces by it's orbital dynamics with Saturn

Good points

 

[evince]

Are you some renown scientist, who is an authority on water?????

No but we can still discuss the subject

 

[Saint Guinefort]

So this wasn’t you saying you would let us enjoy this discussion of science without your misplaced and compulsive hate?



You really are a horrible person with nothing good to offer mankind

NOpe. Learn to read. I said you should enjoy your discussion since I love watching scientific know-nothings talk about science they don't understand.


Like this gem:

Liquid water can't exist in that phase below 0 C, so it can't be that cold.

 

[evince]

I can see why


Fascinating

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Good points

Liquid water can exist below 0degC when salts are present. learn basic chemistry. THEN talk about it.

 

[evince]

I'm familiar with how entropy depresses freezing point, I just didn't see the need to be a jackass and bluster about the finer details of thermodynamics.

The question asked was whether it's to cold for life. The answer is, no it's not. Whether it's freshwater freezing at 0 C or sea water freezing at -1.8 C. That is a miniscule difference as far as life is concerned, and the average person on the street doesn't give a shit about the finer points of chemistry; zero degrees centigrade is a convenient reference point most people will recognize .

Agreed


The information was publicly released for all people to read and discuss


It’s for everyone

 

[evince]

Thanks to you and Nifty for actually being interested in this story. I hope in my lifetime I will see a probe sent to the surface of Enceladus

Me too

It has some very interesting implications

 

[evince]

I'd have to look it up, but I'm reasonably certain it's billions of years old and formed around or close to the time Saturn formed. As far as I know it wasn't a rogue planetoid captured by Saturn's gravity

If it’s nearly as old as earth at least



It could have delivered life to earth

 

[evince]

There's a concept proposal to put a lander on Enceladus before 2050.

Some astrobiologists are calling Enceladus the most exciting object in the solar system

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiec...g-object-in-the-solar-system/?sh=6eedf8f732ec

Can’t wait for further finds on this subject

 

[Saint Guinefort]

Liquid water can't exist in that phase below 0 C, so it can't be that cold.

This is not correct.

 

[Cypress]

A truely important discovery that has some cool implications for the foundation of life on earth

The Panspermia hypothesis suggests the biomolecules of life were delivered to Earth and possibly other planets from deep space. Supposedly organic compounds and amino acids are formed in regions of interstellar gas, get absorbed into asteroids, and ride around the galaxy seeding planets