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Dutch Uncle said:
No, I don't know. Why don't you explain it to me, please.
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Study finds 1100 police officers per year or 3 per day are arrested nationwide
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...er-year-or-3-per-day-are-arrested-nationwide/

As Murders Spiked, Police Solved About Half in 2020
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/01/12/as-murders-spiked-police-solved-about-half-in-2020

Most violent and property crimes in the U.S. go unsolved
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...t-and-property-crimes-in-the-u-s-go-unsolved/

US police don't end up solving most crimes
https://www.insider.com/police-dont-solve-most-violent-property-crimes-data-2020-6

These Rape Victims Had to Sue to Get the Police to Investigate
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/us/rape-victims-kits-police-departments.html

Why do you think that firemen do half-naked calendars and not cops? Because of all the donuts and swastikas.
 
LV426 said:
Study finds 1100 police officers per year or 3 per day are arrested nationwide
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...er-year-or-3-per-day-are-arrested-nationwide/

As Murders Spiked, Police Solved About Half in 2020
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/01/12/as-murders-spiked-police-solved-about-half-in-2020

Most violent and property crimes in the U.S. go unsolved
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-ta...t-and-property-crimes-in-the-u-s-go-unsolved/

US police don't end up solving most crimes
https://www.insider.com/police-dont-solve-most-violent-property-crimes-data-2020-6

These Rape Victims Had to Sue to Get the Police to Investigate
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/us/rape-victims-kits-police-departments.html

Why do you think that firemen do half-naked calendars and not cops? Because of all the donuts and swastikas.
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Thanks for the links, LV. It's sincerely appreciated when others share facts. :thup:

Aside from the fact, there are about 900,000 law officers in our nation, I agree that one bad cop is one too many, much less 1,100 per year. From your link....for those who read it all and didn't just cherry-pick:

To be clear, police are not committing crimes at anywhere near the level of civilians. Stinson’s data found 1.7 arrests of police per 100,000 population over the seven years of the study, where the general arrest rate in 2012 alone was 3,888 arrests per 100,000 population.

1.7 compared to 3,888. Gee, LV, looks like we need more cops, not less! :thup:

As for solving crimes, the answer is usually found in funding and public support. On JPP both you and the RWNJs want to defund the police and set up your own little kingdoms. Sad, but I disagree with the idea of anarchy and "might makes right". That's not what most parents want for their children and grandchildren. The only people who seem to want it are the violently stupid and the insane.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Stinson’s data found 1.7 arrests of police per 100,000 population over the seven years of the study, where the general arrest rate in 2012 alone was 3,888 arrests per 100,000 population.
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This is just arrests for committing crimes, not the rate of committing crimes.

So I'm not sure what point you think you're making when you quote that cops arrest citizens at a rate 3000x that of arresting fellow cops.
 
LV426 said:
This is just arrests for committing crimes, not the rate of committing crimes.

So I'm not sure what point you think you're making when you quote that cops arrest citizens at a rate 3000x that of arresting fellow cops.
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Ahh, so where are the missing numbers? Hidden by the cops? The Jews? Both? Maybe just "the deep state"?
 
LV426 said:
Again, those are arrests, not acts of crime.

This just shows how police protect themselves.
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Which is why I think you are very young and sheltered or that you have more in common with Sybil, Truth Detector, et al. than I initially believed.


Other than polarity, are you really different from them, LV? If different, please explain in what way(s).
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Ahh, so where are the missing numbers? Hidden by the cops?
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Yeah, pretty much.

Cops rarely go after themselves, that's why the arrest rate is 3000x lower than the rate they arrest citizens.

So to put it another way, cops are arresting 3000 times more citizens than they arrest themselves.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Which is why I think you are very young and sheltered or that you have more in common with Sybil, Truth Detector, et al. than I initially believed.
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What makes you think that cops police themselves as much as or greater than they police citizens?

An arrest rate of 1.7/100,000 seems to be a cover up, not a validation.
 
LV426 said:
Yeah, pretty much.

Cops rarely go after themselves, that's why the arrest rate is 3000x lower than the rate they arrest citizens.

So to put it another way, cops are arresting 3000 times more citizens than they arrest themselves.
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Awesome theory. Let's say you are 100% correct. What is your solution, LV?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Other than polarity, are you really different from them, LV? If different, please explain in what way(s).
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Age does not beget wisdom, Dutch.

Age does beget arrogance, though.

So instead of dealing with the fact that the numbers you were highlighting were just arrests, not the rate at which crimes are committed, you want to make this personal.

Be careful what you wish for...if you want to get personal, fine. Just don't fucking complain when I hit you back 100x harder.

Consider this a warning.
 
LV426 said:
What makes you think that cops police themselves as much as or greater than they police citizens?

An arrest rate of 1.7/100,000 seems to be a cover up, not a validation.
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The same way the military does: a sense of honor. They've sworn to do their duty. Sure, some cops don't live up the same as any other sworn profession, be it the military, the medical field or the legal profession. It's up to those inside to stop such people so as not to bring dishonor on all of them. A good system gets better or maintains a low level of corruption. A flawed system sees the corruption worsening to the point it fails. Which way do you sincerely believe it's going, LV?

Disagreed on your conclusion due to a complete lack of facts. It's like saying 2 +2 = 3 because the Jews stole a 1. WTF, LV?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Awesome theory. Let's say you are 100% correct. What is your solution, LV?
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Abolish local police and sheriffs departments nationwide.

Major investigations can be run by state police or federal agencies.

Petty crime policing costs communities more than the impact of the petty crime they are being arrested for.

We've been giving cops money every year and every year they let half of all murders and virtually 100% of all rapes go without arresting a single person, and they never, ever, ever, ever police themselves. Never.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The same way the military does: a sense of honor.
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That is the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life.

You think there's honor in locking up 3,800 out of every 100,000 citizens?

You have a weird concept of honor.

"Honor" would be turning corrupt cops in, but they never do that.

The only cops who get arrested these days are those caught on camera by citizens.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
They've sworn to do their duty
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Are you so fucking naive that you think those cops take that oath seriously?

I mean, you accused ME of being naive, but here you are pinning your entire argument on the "honor" of cops who cover for each other and only arrest fellow cops when there's overwhelming and indisputable documented video evidence of their abuses...and even when there is, they still fight it.
 
LV426 said:
Age does not beget wisdom, Dutch.

Age does beget arrogance, though.

So instead of dealing with the fact that the numbers you were highlighting were just arrests, not the rate at which crimes are committed, you want to make this personal.

Be careful what you wish for...if you want to get personal, fine. Just don't fucking complain when I hit you back 100x harder.

Consider this a warning.
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Agreed.

Disagreed for the same reason as agreeing to wisdom. You may or may not grow wise, LV, but to say you will certainly become arrogant is not necessarily so.

You hate cops. I get it. What is your solution, LV? Defund the police? Fine. Before doing so, I recommend this plan: Tell all the cops to take a mandatory two-weeks off (I suggest around Christmas and New Year's) and see what happens.

If you are right, crime will go down, but I assert crime will go up for what I consider to be obvious reasons.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Sure, some cops don't live up the same as any other sworn profession, be it the military, the medical field or the legal profession.
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You wouldn't be giving that much benefit of the doubt to airline pilots who don't live up to the standards of their profession.

So why are you making an exception for cops?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
A good system gets better or maintains a low level of corruptio
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We can always talk in vague terms about "a system", but when we get down into the nuts and bolts, we find that you have given this about as much thought as Andrew Yang has given to his stupid new vacuous political party.

So you think the current system is good? You don't seem to be saying it here. And by saying what you're saying, you're really admitting that cops commit far more crimes than they are arrested for, and that the system protects them instead of holding them accountable.
 
LV426 said:
Are you so fucking naive that you think those cops take that oath seriously?

I mean, you accused ME of being naive, but here you are pinning your entire argument on the "honor" of cops who cover for each other and only arrest fellow cops when there's overwhelming and indisputable documented video evidence of their abuses...and even when there is, they still fight it.
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Why do you think it's naive to believe people take their oaths seriously? Because of nutjob oath-breakers on JPP? I assure they are the outcasts. The fringe. The nutjobs. Almost all Americans are good people. Some are weaker than others, sometimes misguided a bit. Those sworn to a duty are a cut above. Those who are elected, not so much.

Facing temptation every day is a difficult thing. That's why it's good to have police in pairs or some form of live monitoring. Bodycams are a start.

Instead, you seem to favor cutting police down to one cop and not very many of them. Is that correct, LV?
 
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