I’m changing my party affiliation

cawacko said:
I've had this same conversation with others. It's a lot easier for an educated well to do white person to acknowledge their privilege than it is, like you said, say a white kid growing up in a single parent trailer park home with a meth addicted mother. Probably not going to resonate real well with that kid.

This is random but the middle and high school my daughter is assigned to are both 85% Asian and Hispanic. So much of this discussion around the 1619 project and CRT is white and black. Interesting to see it taught in that environment.
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Most reputable historians find the 1619 essays poor history that try to throw in race where it does not belong.
 
BidenPresident said:
Bizarre. You're the only person who doesn't know you're a right winger. kinda scary
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You think everybody has to fit into two categories--it is not a binary world (or simplistic).

What right-wing view do I have? All the conservative posters call me a left winger because I don't believe any of their election fraud lies. I guess you believe Trump won in 2020 since I am a right-winger for not believing it.
 
Flash said:
You think everybody has to fit into two categories--it is not a binary world (or simplistic).

What right-wing view do I have? All the conservative posters call me a left winger because I don't believe any of their election fraud lies. I guess you believe Trump won in 2020 since I am a right-winger for not believing it.
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Amazing you deceive yourself this way.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
That sounds so very honest. Not. Why not just have ppl vote w/o the party registration bullshit?
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It makes perfect sense. If you live in a heavily Republican county, for example, a Republican is going to win the Sheriff's office (and all other county offices). You may be a Democrat, but if you want any influence on who becomes your sheriff you vote in the Republican primary to pick the best choice. You vote for the Democratic candidate in the general election, but since he won't win you have a more acceptable Republican sheriff.

My state does not have party registration. Any registered voter can vote in either party primary.
 
anonymoose said:
Better to have no ideas than bad ones . The positive change I see is that they’re growing balls and finally standing up to the extremism of the left. But I agree with you. You don’t want me in your party if I were to vote for such heathens as Martin O’Malley, Paul Tsongas , or Andrew Yang.
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Or even Bernie Sanders, who was cheated AGAIN by the DNC.
 
Flash said:
It makes perfect sense. If you live in a heavily Republican county, for example, a Republican is going to win the Sheriff's office (and all other county offices). You may be a Democrat, but if you want any influence on who becomes your sheriff you vote in the Republican primary to pick the best choice. You vote for the Democratic candidate in the general election, but since he won't win you have a more acceptable Republican sheriff.

My state does not have party registration. Any registered voter can vote in either party primary.
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Your state has sense.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
He actually is not a RWer. Know him from a previous forum from way back. He's about a centrist as it's possible to be in these sad and dark times.
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And you wonder why dems will probably lose huge next election?
I’m pro choice. I’m Not for gun control, I’m for repeal of the second amendment.
Considered Trump the third worst candidate of them all in ‘16, liked O’Malley actually.
Hated Bush and McCain because I’m Anti war.
I always considered those guys that chased down that Aubrey kid to be guilty of murder.
Yet half the board here considers me a white supremacist nazi.
You included.
 
Flash said:
We can teach about prejudice and discrimination, but we do not need to do anything to try to shame students. We don't tell kids that they have white privilege or try to make them acknowledge that. There are much more effective methods to lean these things. Telling some white kid in a single parent home and too poor to afford school lunch that he is privileged is counter productive.
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We agree that at no point should there be forced activities, but I think you mentioned above that you were describing college curriculum.

And in teaching white privilege to starving students a teacher doesn't have to be insular. Most are getting free lunch at school. Black and white. At least they aren't hungry. I am very close to a kid whose father died when the was a toddler. He got free lunch along with his sisters, and lived in section 8 housing. He had clean clothes, and didn't go hungry. He was the high school valedictorian and now teaches high school English.

I don't see a problem with students of a certain age learning about redlining, sundown towns, Black Wall St massacre,or other past practices that did indeed illustrate white privilege. As a history lesson. Stop and frisk and DWB are more recent history. But, taught as history it SHOULD be a precursor to learning about civil rights legislation that came as a result and how/if that has changed present day society.

At no point should any concept of 'guilt' or 'shame' be part of a lesson plan. I think that's something invented by Hannity et al. By teaching historical truth some will experience some level of guilt and most won't. Or shouldn't.

But that hungry white kid can walk down his block without concern about the cops. When he gets older it will be driving. I don't believe that illustrating same will do any psychological damage.


Because the above is true, and it's historical fact. It isn't opinion. I think a general discussion ought to be a mandatory part of an American history lesson plan, with an in depth discussion as an elective.

Because history is back, and the White Supremist movement is growing again. Kids should be taught that this isn't new. It's a part of our history.
 
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