Is the Bible Literally True? No, of Course Not!

gfm7175 said:
I'm well aware that there's no reason to continue a discussion directly with you, as you do not wish to learn the truth (instead opting to mindlessly repeat the lies of Bart Ehrmann and others like him who all have no clue what they are talking about). I only continue with these responses for the benefit of others who actually wish to learn.

The problem is that you are unwilling to learn the material necessary in order to understand what you are talking about. You are unwilling to learn about the customs of the Passover holiday. You are unwilling to learn about how days were kept track of back then (as opposed to how you and I keep track of them today). In general, you're just plain unwilling to learn.


There is NO "wording to the contrary". I've already explained precisely why your mind masters are mistaken about this topic, but you are unwilling to learn.


It IS all referencing the same day, as I've already explained. Back then, days started/ended at roughly 6pm (IOW, at sunset). All of the recorded events from the "Last Supper" to the burial in the tomb happened on the very same day (the 14th of Nisan, during the 24 hour period that runs from roughly 6pm to the following roughly 6pm).

Think of all those events (in today's terms) as happening between the time period of 12:00am TODAY and 11:59:59pm STILL TODAY. That's what's happening here, but back then the times would've been roughly 6:00pm and 5:59:59pm (the span of a 24 hour day). I've already provided you with the timeline of events multiple times now. Look back on it if you wish to learn about it.


Ahhhh, the ol' patented "you believe you know more than [inthert thum thooper thmart perthon(th) here].

Why YES, YES I do. Just because YOU don't know a dog turd from a tootsie roll.......
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"Ahhhh, the ol' patented "you believe you know more than [inthert thum thooper thmart perthon(th) here].

Why YES, YES I do.

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This is why there's no reason to continue this conversation. Best of luck when you consult a mechanic for your chest pain!
 
ZenMode said:
As a person who portrays himself as a proponent of science,
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Science is great!

ZenMode said:
I'm curious what is your best estimate on how old is the Earth?
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Why did you bring up science and then follow it up with a question that falls outside the purview of science?

The age of the Earth is unknown. It could be as "recent" as roughly 6,000 years old, or it could be as "ancient" as roughly a few billion years old. There's no way to know for sure, or to even narrow the possible age range down much more than that.

Even specifically within the purview of Christianity, the age of the Earth remains unknown (since the Bible doesn't specify how old the Earth is).
 
gfm7175 said:
Hey just for fun: what is the point of a Bible? Does it give directions to eternal life?
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Apparently, it says “do it our way, or else”. At least, that’s your take on it.

The theology of reward and punishment. A god made in man’s image.
 
gfm7175 said:
Science is great!


Why did you bring up science and then follow it up with a question that falls outside the purview of science?

The age of the Earth is unknown. It could be as "recent" as roughly 6,000 years old, or it could be as "ancient" as roughly a few billion years old. There's no way to know for sure, or to even narrow the possible age range down much more than that.

Even specifically within the purview of Christianity, the age of the Earth remains unknown (since the Bible doesn't specify how old the Earth is).
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"It could be as "recent" as roughly 6,000 years old"

What is the scientific basis for the possibility that the Earth "could" be roughly 6,000 years old...you know.... since you put significant importance on scientific evidence.
 
gfm7175 said:
:rofl2: Why would I consult a mechanic for chest pain?! :rofl2:

TOO FUNNY! :rofl2:
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Apparently education and experience in a given profession isn't important to you. How else could you claim to be better equipped to translate/interpret the Bible than people who are actually knowledgeable in that area? Do you believe that the different translations/interpretations of the Bible are being done by podiatrists?
 
ZenMode said:
"It could be as "recent" as roughly 6,000 years old"
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It's possible, yes.

ZenMode said:
What is the scientific basis for the possibility that the Earth "could" be roughly 6,000 years old...you know.... since you put significant importance on scientific evidence.
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Again, you are asking a question that is outside the purview of science. How can I give you an answer that is based in science when your question falls outside the purview of science?
 
gfm7175 said:
Hey just for fun: what is the point of a Bible? Does it give directions to eternal life?
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Unlike you I will answer the question:

1. No (there is no reason to believe there is "eternal life")
2. The Bible contains a lot of really good rules for living a decent and kind life
3. The Bible contains a lot of really bad examples of people doing horrible things in the name of their God
 
gfm7175 said:
The age of the Earth is unknown. It could be as "recent" as roughly 6,000 years old,
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The only way the earth could be 6000 years old is if the entirety of physics, chemistry and hydrology were all a giant lie. (Even if one believes God made it despite the laws of physics it's bad theology because it makes God into a liar.)

. There's no way to know for sure, or to even narrow the possible age range down much more than that.
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You don't know the science.
 
gfm7175 said:
It's possible, yes.


Again, you are asking a question that is outside the purview of science. How can I give you an answer that is based in science when your question falls outside the purview of science?
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If a study of the universe and its contents, whether it be at a micro or macro level, isn't in the purview of science, what area of study is it?
 
ZenMode said:
If a study of the universe and its contents, whether it be at a micro or macro level, isn't in the purview of science, what area of study is it?
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The specific question asked (re: the age of the Earth) falls within the purview of religion.
 
ZenMode said:
Wow..... just wow. I'm speechless.

There is clearly no path forward for a useful discussion.
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People who can enjoy the benefits of nuclear medicine will fight to the lengths of credulity to deny nuclear science when it conflicts with a literalist interp of the Bible.
 
gfm7175 said:
A method that is based on a number of assumptions.
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Absolutely NONE OF WHICH YOU UNDERSTAND.

But I bet if the doctor told you that you needed a PET scan you'd do it no problem whatsoever. Because you don't know anything about any of this stuff.

(Feel free to google what a PET scan is)
 
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