ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Possibly, but overall Jews, atheists, and agnostics scored higher than evangelicals. Interesting.
Pew- the more ppl know about religion, the less they like Evangelicals why???
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Possibly, but overall Jews, atheists, and agnostics scored higher than evangelicals. Interesting.
Those wouldnt like them very well to begin with.
I made it a point to eschew stereotyping evangelicals in Post 49, and the same holds true for educated people.
I neither shun religious people, nor have any disinterest in religion.
Religions are part and parcel of the human experience. Collectively, world religions constitute an intrinsic part of human philosophical and ethical traditions. That is - or should be - of broad interest to any educated person who is keen to learn and understand history, comparative religion, ethics, philosophy, world culture. It is indispensable, in fact, for any life long learner to make religious education and study a part of their education. I have partaken in classes on Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hindusim, Shinto, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Budhism, Taoism, and enjoyed every minute of it.
I took the Pew quiz and am not going to brag or crow about my score. But the bottom line, I believe, is that highly educated individuals with boundless curiosity know a lot more about religion than a lot of devout Christians.
The only thing I object to are political and cultural Jihads carried out by purported warriors for their faiths - and that applies to Jihads by fundamentalist Christians, Jews, or Muslims.
Thats my point.
While you may take a philosophical attitude to the cultural aspects, the religious are shunned.
The most and least educated U.S. religious groups
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/04/the-most-and-least-educated-u-s-religious-groups/
Interesting...
I was surprised Mormons are that low & not surprised JW's are near bottom...
I didn’t say that it was, dumbfuck. But unlike your “Christian” assholes, it’s not illegal discrimination
Not what I said.
I take issue with fundamentalist Christian and Muslim Jihadists bent on theocracy. I consider Christian Jihadists to be a cult rightwing political movement, and do not lump them in with the truly devout and spiritual.
I do not shun the genuinely religious or faithful, I occassionally attend church myself although I am probably more agnostic than truly devout, and I am genuinely interested in religious and spiritual traditions as an educated person dedicated to life long learning about all facets of human history, philosophy, ethics, and culture.
Thats what I said, just fewer words.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
I don't think many of us like ppl who get in your face about their belief system -- whether it's Jesus, quitting smoking, Amway products, or veganism.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Well -- the loud and vocal in-your-face religious are shunned. Those who quietly live their deeply-held faith are fine with most of us.
We also need to make a distinction between truly devout and pious Christians.
And the phony Christians who patrol message boards, aka those who are the first to yell out "Cunt!", bear false witness against other posters and public figures, curse like sailors, and engage in libel and hyperpartisan rightwing hackery.
Those are not real, genuine Christians. I have respect for pious, genuine, and modest Christians.
Phony message board Christians are not entitled to, nor have they earned the respect pious Christians, Jews, or Muslims have earned. That is my two cents.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
ironically, "evangelicals" originally was meant to distinguish from "fundamentalists".......now the left calls fundamentalists, evangelicals........just another example of the left fucking things up by changing the meaning of words......
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
I feel the same way. Bearing false witness against public figures based on rumor and innuendo, personal attacks on anonymous posters they'll never meet in real life, avid praise for a vile human being who violates every ethical precept they are supposed to follow, hatred, bigotry, and racism -- I can't think of a single religion who would claim them as members. Even Satanists have their standards.
I've been blessed to know (and be family with) some genuine Christ-like followers of that religion. They were nothing like the pretenders here and those who frequent other cyber venues and who post on news outlets' social media.
Mason Melchizedek
Verified User
"Many come in my name but they aren't mine"
We are on the same page here.
The deacons, priests, and bishops of the Eastern Orthodox Church I affiliate with, would be shocked, disgusted, and appalled by the lying, cursing, belligerence, profanity, and the bearing of false witness that phony rightwing Christians on message boards engage in.
Mason Michaels
Verified User
The replacing of Jesus with Trump as Messiah,is troubling!My main issue with fake Christian Evangelicals.
Why isn't it? The gays weren't even harassed,
Who is replacing Jesus with Trump? Name one person who has.
Tranquillus in Exile
New member
I respect these evangelical leaders:
More than 500 evangelical leaders and pastors from every state in the country have signed a letter denouncing President Donald Trump’s executive order on immigration.
The letter points to the role that local churches have played in helping refugees resettle in the United States. The leaders used the Bible to emphasize that welcoming the refugee is a Christian duty.
“As Christians, we have a historic call, expressed over two thousand years, to serve the suffering,” the letter states. “We cannot abandon this call now.”
. . .
The letter was organized by World Relief, the humanitarian arm of the National Association of Evangelicals. World Relief is one of the nine voluntary agencies that work with the federal government to help resettle refugees.
World Relief collected signatures from conservative evangelical leaders who don’t often speak out on political issues ― such as Tim and Kathy Keller, of New York’s Redeemer Presbyterian Church, and the Christian author Max Lucado.
“For some people, embracing refugees is a political issue,” evangelical author Lynne Hybels said in a statement about the letter she signed. “For me, as a Christian, speaking up for and caring for refugees is more an act of worship and obedience to a God whose Kingdom is global and whose ‘mercies are new every morning.’”
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...trumps-refugee-ban_n_589b5c9ae4b04061313adf83
Not the ones who scramble to give Trump cover:
"Donald Trump is a good moral person and an example to the nation" - Jerry Falwell.
"The commandment to be a Good Samaritan doesn’t apply to how the government treats refugees" - Franklin Graham.
More than 500 evangelical leaders and pastors from every state in the country have signed a letter denouncing President Donald Trump’s executive order on immigration.
The letter points to the role that local churches have played in helping refugees resettle in the United States. The leaders used the Bible to emphasize that welcoming the refugee is a Christian duty.
“As Christians, we have a historic call, expressed over two thousand years, to serve the suffering,” the letter states. “We cannot abandon this call now.”
. . .
The letter was organized by World Relief, the humanitarian arm of the National Association of Evangelicals. World Relief is one of the nine voluntary agencies that work with the federal government to help resettle refugees.
World Relief collected signatures from conservative evangelical leaders who don’t often speak out on political issues ― such as Tim and Kathy Keller, of New York’s Redeemer Presbyterian Church, and the Christian author Max Lucado.
“For some people, embracing refugees is a political issue,” evangelical author Lynne Hybels said in a statement about the letter she signed. “For me, as a Christian, speaking up for and caring for refugees is more an act of worship and obedience to a God whose Kingdom is global and whose ‘mercies are new every morning.’”
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...trumps-refugee-ban_n_589b5c9ae4b04061313adf83
Not the ones who scramble to give Trump cover:
"Donald Trump is a good moral person and an example to the nation" - Jerry Falwell.
"The commandment to be a Good Samaritan doesn’t apply to how the government treats refugees" - Franklin Graham.
ThatOwlWoman
Leftist Vermin
Beautiful. Learning this gives me new hope for the country. It seems like the voices of hatred and bigotry often drown out the quieter voice of compassion and caring.
The sentiments of those last two "men of god" that you quoted are echoed here almost daily by the pseudo-Xtians on this board. Stretch, PMP, Toxic, and other Xtian pretenders have all said the same things -- even including corrupting their Bible to justify themselves.