Sick of the GOP

WinterBorn said:
IMO, once the name-calling and the rest starts, the actual discussion is all but finished. Once we cross the line into such hostility, why stop? Why not go full out and talk about doing vile things with the poster's children, or raping the other poster or other equally disgusting things? Once you have destroyed civil discourse, why stop?

There have been plenty of great people who have abandoned these forum because of this hostility.
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Apparently you missed the "discussion" between USF, disloyal and ID in which they discussed doing just that to my 4 year old (at the time) daughter.
 
WinterBorn said:
So a whole 2 days of not being an asshole? Wow, did you strain anything?

Based on the responses I got from my pleas for a more civil discourse, I see that it is futile.

So fuck you. (based on pre 7/10, of course)
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heh, heh, heh....good one...but keep in mind I have only been here less than a week....So, it's about half and half at this point...

I can't speak to your pleas, and I certainly wouldn't presume to speak for anyone else in here, but I bear no one any animosity in here, why would I? I don't know any of them personally. :shrug:

As for your expletive that you closed with...Sorry dude, I am happily married...But don't worry dude, it take far more energy I am learning to be nasty, than it does to just debate your case....So good luck with that.
 
Superfreak said:
actually I disagree, it has become far more hostile of late. I myself have certainly partaken in far more such exchanges. So I will choose to begin with myself and try to correct my actions, no matter how much certain morons deserve to be hammered :)
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Dude, chill. It is an election year, and a battle of the century at that.
I am personally off the rails and will shortly being taking a sabatical, but exitement is par for the course right now.
 
Rune said:
Dude, chill. It is an election year, and a battle of the century at that.
I am personally off the rails and will shortly being taking a sabatical, but exitement is par for the course right now.
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Battle of the century? You may be too young to know this, but every presidential election is the "battle of the century" or "the most important election ever".
 
WinterBorn said:
Battle of the century? You may be too young to know this, but every presidential election is the "battle of the century" or "the most important election ever".
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You think I am younger than you? From the way you perceive I am acting no doubt. To me the race between the first black president and the first corporate president is the battle of the century.

You have many good points and I have always respected your point of veiw. I realize I am over the edge and I an sorry. I don't have a good poker face, it is one of my weaknesses. At the same time Bijou makes valid points, I am glad I was not able to trainwreck you two. My personal stress level is near max, and I am letting it show here.
 
Granule said:
Down with the melodramatics, WB. It's an observation, and only an observation.

Wrong. He is a RINO at best, as he showed his true colors in this historical decision.

No, his ruling was the wrong one for his party, and for the country, now nobody can trust him. THAT is the end of it.

Wrong, again. This was the furthest thing from Occam's razor. The simplest explanation was "Obamacare is a jumbled mess, therefore, it is unconstitutional. Nancy Pelosi was full of shit. Scrap this abomination and start over".
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Start over? They've been starting over for one hundred years! (Excerpt)U.S. health reform in the period 1912-1920 was an issue raised nationally by Theodore Roosevelt's call for national health insurance, in his third party bid for president in the election of 1912. (End) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doc_Tropics/United_States_health_reform_1912-1920

Roberts realized it wasn't unconstitutional and considering the false starts over the years .....JUST DO IT! :)
 
Rune said:
You think I am younger than you? From the way you perceive I am acting no doubt. To me the race between the first black president and the first corporate president is the battle of the century.

You have many good points and I have always respected your point of veiw. I realize I am over the edge and I an sorry. I don't have a good poker face, it is one of my weaknesses. At the same time Bijou makes valid points, I am glad I was not able to trainwreck you two. My personal stress level is near max, and I am letting it show here.
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I'm 52, so unless you are older, I am right.

Also, this would not be the first corp president. You don't think George W. was put in the White House by money?
 
yeah, I get blood drawn monthly for a condition I have, and I was informed today because the place I go now has to be a member of the Hospital System because they take about 80% medicare patients as their business, that no longer would my visits be a simply office visit, but rather an outpatient hospital visit opening me up to 20% rather than the $20 co-pay, Thanks Obamacare.
 
Granule said:
Sure thing, tough guy. We'll start here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/20...hn-roberts-obamacare-supreme-court-flip-flop/

Do you have any sources that state to the contrary?

Chew on this before you blindly start popping off: http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2012/07/romneycare_vs_o.php

In the future, can you please think before you post? You're a disgrace.
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If we're going to talk conspiracy theories maybe Roberts was worried about Conservative pressure. Maybe that's why he pretended to go along with the other four "Die. See if I care" folks.
 
j-mac said:
yeah, I get blood drawn monthly for a condition I have, and I was informed today because the place I go now has to be a member of the Hospital System because they take about 80% medicare patients as their business, that no longer would my visits be a simply office visit, but rather an outpatient hospital visit opening me up to 20% rather than the $20 co-pay, Thanks Obamacare.
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What does that have to do with Obamacare?
 
Superfreak said:
But you are providing nothing to back up your observation.



Yes... he showed Red White and Blue trump his political views. As WB stated, his job was not to make sure the law was conservative, his job was to make sure it was constitutional. Is the very simple fact that he stood up and finally stopped the abuse of the Commerce clause escaping you?



He is NEVER supposed to rule based on what is best or right for his party. EVER. Period.
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I'll come right out and say it. "Sorry, Superfreak, for agreeing with you. I'll try not to do that again. :(
 
Darla said:
I think this whole argument here misses the point. Of course if you feel tht you'd rather vote in favor of stripping women of their rights because keeping the bitches down is worth more than money to you, then you should absolutely follow your conscious. (ha ha )

However, the reason why people ask questions like, what's the matter with Kansas, is not because low income rural voters are purposefully making a choice to take an economic hit, it's because of the dumb ones who believe they are paying more in taxes under Obama.

The poster boy for this is the biggest known dipshit in the country, Joe the "I'm horny" not a plumber plumber.
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Are you knocking "horny"?:whoa:
 
leaningright said:
I think Glenn Beck is a nut of the nuttiest sort...the right's version of Keith Olberman. BUT, if people think there is a huge difference between Democrats and Republicans in general, they're fooling themselves.
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There is a huge difference.

There just aren't many differences.
 
Bijou said:
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Are you giving Rune the clap?
 
Granule said:
Great! Then a few more months wouldn't have killed them. Problem is, a good healthcare bill isn't in this administration -- it was destined to be a piece of shit. :)
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I agree Obamacare is far from perfect but insurance companies and other vested interests have thwarted any attempt to implement a medical plan. ObamaCare breaks the deadlock with coverage for pre-existing conditions. It's natural insurance companies did not want to insure those with pre-existing conditions, however, those folks need coverage. The point being medical insurance can not be run privately as a capitalist enterprise and ObamaCare is the first step towards full government insurance.

Take drug price negotiations. The drug companies would have buried ObamaCare if that had been brought up but, sooner or later, it will be just as other countries have done. Once the citizens actually experience the benefits of government medical public opinion will swiftly change. It's important to remember it's just a start.
 
apple0154 said:
I agree Obamacare is far from perfect but insurance companies and other vested interests have thwarted any attempt to implement a medical plan. ObamaCare breaks the deadlock with coverage for pre-existing conditions. It's natural insurance companies did not want to insure those with pre-existing conditions, however, those folks need coverage. The point being medical insurance can not be run privately as a capitalist enterprise and ObamaCare is the first step towards full government insurance.

Take drug price negotiations. The drug companies would have buried ObamaCare if that had been brought up but, sooner or later, it will be just as other countries have done. Once the citizens actually experience the benefits of government medical public opinion will swiftly change. It's important to remember it's just a start.
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Blame, blame, blame....It's Insurance lobbists, it's Bush's fault, it's republican's, it's Europe, it's ATM's, it's anyone but demo's fault for all the inability to get what they wanted....Even the American people's fault...Demo's had a filibuster proof congress with a liberal democrat President for 2009,2010, blocked republicans from even being in the discussions making up this 2700 page monstrosity, told us that if we didn't like it we should sit down, and shut up because elections have consequences.

Now that it is election time, and this thing is as unpopular as the day y'all rammed it down our throats, you say that's ok, once we get you hooked on the "freebies" you'll like it. Like a drug dealer works, they say 'just try it'....Then if the person they are trying to hook turns on them and turns them in, they blame their own misfortune on the person, instead of their illegal behavior.

People of this country see that this law is a lemon, and they don't want it, nor do they want the lie that it is either. This law designed to actually destroy 1/6 of the economy so that government has no choice but to step in and take it over in the form of single payer health care that has destroyed health systems in other countries, lowered levels of care, and bankrupted these countries that have single payer.

Now I am sure I will hear nothing but snarky little responses calling me names, throwing a slew of profane language, and asking me to 'prove' every little sentence I say here, when no article, no proof could ever satisfy because in the end it would mean that these people would have to have an open mind to consider something other than their own ideology, or be open to discussion in an honest fashion.

I don't expect that this opinion of mine will be received well by the liberals in here, so I think we all know how the usual suspects will react, but hell, I don't care...If they think they are making a plausible defense of this by attacking me, well all I can say is that educated people know differently.

This isn't an attack, just the opinion of a conservative that is disappointed with the direction of our country under Obama.
 
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