If you do not think WHO is an agenda based left leaning organization, you have a child like naivete snowflake.
Socialized medicine a global failure
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If you do not think WHO is an agenda based left leaning organization, you have a child like naivete snowflake.
LIE and LAME. Link us up to your sources snowflake. We shall tear them down for you so that you do not continue to wallow in blissful ignorance the rest of your life.
Do you always bloviate arguments no one is making? Dunce.
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Robo
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What children am I fighting to keep from healthcare? Explain WHO they are and HOW I’m keeping them from healthcare. I’ll understand if you can’t!
Well darling, I don’t vote for Republicans or Democrats and I didn’t vote for Trump or Clinton, so HOW are the Republicans duping me? I’ll understand if you can’t/won’t explain!
WHAT FACTS? WHAT LEGACY?
Robo
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You would be too if you had the control over Congress that they do and can write their legislation for them.
evince thinks you, I, and others have more of a responsibility to kids that we didn't produce than the parents that did. If their parents aren't doing for them what they should be doing, it's THEIR parents that are keeping them from healthcare. Just another example of a left winger blaming someone for something to which they have no responsibility while ignoring the fact that those having it refuse to do it.
I'm not keeping anyone else's kids from getting care. They can have all they want as long as the don't demand I pay for it on their behalf.
Including Obamacare that left wingers like kudzu held in high regard and the best thing since sliced bread when it passed. How many millions of those without coverage did they claim Obamacare would help?
Robo
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That must be why so many of the WEALTHY are Democrats who donate huge loot to their WEALTHY Democrat politicians, huh friend?
That must be why Wall Street donated way more money to Clinton than Trump, Huh pal?
That must be why so, so, many of the super WEALTHY are now supporting Single Payer healthcare for the pawns and peons, even the Koch Brothers, because they won’t have to finance an “Employer Health Insurance Program,” Right buddy?
That’s not the right or Republicans Nordi pal, Republicans and the right NEO-CONS and RINOS love BIG government as much as you do. those folks your condemning are the constitutionalist, limited government, Bill Of Rights” small l libertarians, good buddy! But we also agree that those programs you mention are actually the authority of the States to decide for themselves if they want to promote, finance and create such institutions as the Constitution authorizes.
If universal healthcare INSURANCE is your bag Nordi and so wonderful pal, then why do you OPPOSE it as a States Power instead of the one size fits all feds?
Not hardly Nordi buddy! Robo is supporting a CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC. You’re the fan of the WEALTHY. You’re a Democrat, an elitist and socialist authoritarian. You supported and voted for the Millionaire Clinton, not I! You’re the fellow who supports the BILLIONAIRE PARTY, DEMOCRATS. You’re the fellow that agrees with all of those Billionaires and millionaire Hollywood socialist bastards and the Koch Brothers and want Federal Single Payer, so your millionaire and billionaire pals won’t have to keep and or create their Employer Health Insurance Plans for their pawn and peon employees, not Robo! Robo wants a CONSTITUTIONAL LOYAL SMALL GOVERNMENT, TRUE CAPITALISM and INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM FROM BIG authoritarian government!
One could say it did help those for which it was designed to help and left out those for which the claim of helping was made.
How many millions did the Democrats claim it would help? How many millions are still without coverage?
I met the responsibility for MY kids. evince thinks taxpayers have a responsibility to someone else's kid when it comes to things like healthcare, college education, etc. If someone doesn't care enough about their own kids to provide those things, what are those parents really saying about how much, or little, they care for their own?
Universal healthcare has been a huge success around the world. Every industrial nation has complete coverage from birth to death and does it for halt our costs or less. Better results. not worse. When Taiwan was instituting a national healthcare they came to see what we did. It was embarrassing because they added, they did it to see what not to do.
The US does not have universal care because huge pacs and lobbyists for hospitals, doctors, PHARM and durable goods manufacturers fight to the death to prevent it. They spend billions on ads and send spokesmen to all TV shows and talk shows and internet sites. They are actually able to convince some not too bright people that is is bad for them. Can you imagine that?
The US does not have universal care because huge pacs and lobbyists for hospitals, doctors, PHARM and durable goods manufacturers fight to the death to prevent it. They spend billions on ads and send spokesmen to all TV shows and talk shows and internet sites. They are actually able to convince some not too bright people that is is bad for them. Can you imagine that?
Unfortunately, your comments are going to be lost on him!
Wilhelm Zenz
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Those who suggest changes to the health care system are generally met with cries of "treason" and are invited to move south of the border. The superiority of our model to that of the U.S. has become such a part of our national identity that we've grown reticent to experiment with new ideas. Calls for reform invariably spark fears of a plot to put an end to the free system and make us more like the Americans.
Meanwhile, other nations in the advanced world are providing much better care than Canada. A study released Monday by the respected health care think tank The Commonwealth Fund ranked Canada's system 10th out of 11 wealthy nations, ahead of only the U.S.
The U.K., which spends roughly $1,000 less per person than Canada, ranked first.
It's time Canada looked at the rest of the world, free from the constraints of our "public vs. private" fixation, and adopted some ideas that actually work.
you present a flase choic there are many universalsystems that are not state run and allow for private market forces to help quality as usaul the choice is not black and white https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/michael-bolen/canadian-health-care-ranking_b_5503898.html
Meanwhile, other nations in the advanced world are providing much better care than Canada. A study released Monday by the respected health care think tank The Commonwealth Fund ranked Canada's system 10th out of 11 wealthy nations, ahead of only the U.S.
The U.K., which spends roughly $1,000 less per person than Canada, ranked first.
It's time Canada looked at the rest of the world, free from the constraints of our "public vs. private" fixation, and adopted some ideas that actually work.
you present a flase choic there are many universalsystems that are not state run and allow for private market forces to help quality as usaul the choice is not black and white https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/michael-bolen/canadian-health-care-ranking_b_5503898.html
Wilhelm Zenz
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how can you say that?
Robo
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A huge success in the propaganda spewed by the NOW a socialist infestation financed by the socialist majority in the United Nations, the toothless gang of socialist alcoholics that hate America until they need America’s military power. A huge success in the minds of the leftist brainwashed that never research any opposing views and evidence to the contrary of their leftist indoctrination.
If Single Federal Payer is the greatest thing since sliced bread then explain why you oppose it at the state level. I know why. It’s because you know it would fail miserably. It’s because some states have already researched it for their State and found it outrageously expensive and they know the folks in their States would revolt and remove them from office. People would flee their State.
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The people you accuse are the same people that bribe the people you vote for. Democrats had total control of both houses of Congress and Obama in the driver’s seat at the White House. Did they give you Federal Single Payer? Hell no! They gave you Obamacare the scam that enriched further every person and organization your accuse list. Lead pipe proof you haven’t a clue who you’re voting for. Your undying support for a socialist system for America proves further that you haven’t a clue what your talking about.
The European countries and others around the world that have socialized their medical insurance system are populated by a fraction of the folks that populate America and they contribute next to nothing toward their national defense. They depend on America’s armed forces to protect them. Their socialist systems are corrupt! The wealthy get the best healthcare because they pay out of pocket for it. The rest are now days being forced by the shitty care system to find private health insurance. Their drugs are cheaper because that don’t have half of the drugs America has and America invents most of the new drugs. Nobody travels to socialized medicine countries for care. The come to America! They go to places like India and other countries who’s medical systems are not socialized. Who in hell would go to a country to get on a waiting list months and or years long for critical care?
Robo
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You finally got one right Frank! Why should I yield to his propaganda infested post, brainwashed by y'all's hero leftist socialist when I know better? Why should I accept the idea that socialism is the ticket Frank, when I know only capitalism, free markets, competition and for profit always deliver the very best of everything?