Support the Fast Food Workers Strike!

Socrtease said:
No you don't, you believe in minimum wage laws which artificially inflate what the market will bear. If you were truly free market, you would say do away with the minimum wage laws and let the market do what it will. That's a position not even I will take. Minimum wage jobs are for unskilled workers, but that doesn't mean they should get sweat shop wages.
Click to expand...
That's bullshit. Show me the data to defend that assumption. I defy you.

In fact the exact opposite is true. Because those people are at the low end of the economic scale they spend that money and that money actually circulates and grows the economy. Now that's a fact supported by data and not a false assumption like you just stated.

http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/cepr-blog/the-minimum-wage-and-economic-growth
 
Last edited:
Socrtease said:
I have never been so glad for a 7.8% unemployment rate. Let them stay gone, fire their asses and hire someone at 9.50 per hour. Contract them, guarantee that they will get a raise at LEAST every 365 days they work there. Turn over is huge in fast food so you won't have to do that and eventually the 30k per year fast food employees will come back to work for a reasonable wage.
Click to expand...
Why not let the market determine that? Why do you insist that some have the right to the free market but not others? I say let them negotiate and if they have the strength of their position and win more power to them. What are you afraid of? That unskilled people who work hard might have a decent standard of living?
 
Patriot said:
You say you don't eat the food these workers prepare, so what is your stake in this?

What about the poor who can't afford a 68 cent increase in the price?
Click to expand...

Why not just cut profits instead of passing the cost on to the consumers?
 
Really, what is "unskilled labor" though? People act as if good employees are so easy to find and everyone is expendable. It's just not true in my experience. I would pay 17 an hour for the woman he describes to answer my damned phones and take supply orders, without blinking an eye. Is it unskilled? Well, making my customers happy is a skill IMO, giving a shit about your job, showing up for your job on time and without excessive days off, filling orders correctly...that's all skilled to me and I would jump at the chance to pay it for the right person. In fact, I have paid it for the job. I paid 20 an hour to a woman to do that, plus some billing. She was worth every penny.

I am always very interested in reading people's opinions of workers. I hate to say this but I do notice a trend of men devauling the work of others. I frankly believe they have a tendancy to overvalue themselves. Just my two cents.
 
Rana said:
Why not just it profits instead of passing the cost on to the consumers?
Click to expand...

Because the wealthy have more rights than the poor...and corporations are people....and that makes Corporations the wealthiest "people" on the planet....we can't infringe upon their right to make as much money as possible and pay out as little as possible.

This is my rendition of right wing logic, BTW.

The simple truth is that Corporate America has become short term greedy instead of long term greedy. Paying better wages means that the workforce(which makes up the vast majority of our population) has more money in their pockets....more money in the hands of the workforce means more commerce, more commerce means more profits....LONG TERM.

But they don't like the idea, because:

A. It cuts into their short term profits

and

B. Companies would actually have to compete more.
 
Rana said:
Sorry, I pad and I don't always proof read.
Click to expand...
I just got conned by my wife into buying her an IPad. My desktop blue sreened and so she wanted to go to Best Buy, where we bought it, to get a recovery disk. They didn't have one.....but one of them damned sales geeks offered me a return IPad that someone had bought and returned a day later discounted by $100. So of course I bought the damned thing for her.....two days later she fixed the desktop.....I've been had!
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I just got conned by my wife into buying her an IPad. My desktop blue sreened and so she wanted to go to Best Buy, where we bought it, to get a recovery disk. They didn't have one.....but one of them damned sales geeks offered me a return IPad that someone had bought and returned a day later discounted by $100. So of course I bought the damned thing for her.....two days later she fixed the desktop.....I've been had!
Click to expand...

She will love it. My son gave me mine. He won it at a company party! It is the first series, no phone, no camera, but I love it!
 
Howey said:
Wow. Give her a hug from me. She deserves it after managing to succeed after all those roadblocks. PRIMARILY THE ONE OF HAVING TO WORK WITH YOUR MISOGYNISTIC ASS!
Click to expand...
Exactly what have I done or said that makes me a misogynist?
 
Darla said:
Really, what is "unskilled labor" though? People act as if good employees are so easy to find and everyone is expendable. It's just not true in my experience. I would pay 17 an hour for the woman he describes to answer my damned phones and take supply orders, without blinking an eye. Is it unskilled? Well, making my customers happy is a skill IMO, giving a shit about your job, showing up for your job on time and without excessive days off, filling orders correctly...that's all skilled to me and I would jump at the chance to pay it for the right person. In fact, I have paid it for the job. I paid 20 an hour to a woman to do that, plus some billing. She was worth every penny.

I am always very interested in reading people's opinions of workers. I hate to say this but I do notice a trend of men devauling the work of others. I frankly believe they have a tendancy to overvalue themselves. Just my two cents.
Click to expand...
I couldn't agree more. It's ussually the same knuckle draggers who devalue public education. One of my all time favorite business men was Ken Iverson and his motto was "You get things done with people" and he didn't give a shit what school you went to or what skill you proclamied to have. He only cared about team work and getting things done. He walked the talk too as he paid those who did handsomely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F._Kenneth_Iverson
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I just got conned by my wife into buying her an IPad. My desktop blue sreened and so she wanted to go to Best Buy, where we bought it, to get a recovery disk. They didn't have one.....but one of them damned sales geeks offered me a return IPad that someone had bought and returned a day later discounted by $100. So of course I bought the damned thing for her.....two days later she fixed the desktop.....I've been had!
Click to expand...

You should thank her for marrying you and offer to buy her something else too. An iPad is a small price to pay for a good woman, which you have. No sympathy from me.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I couldn't agree more. It's ussually the same knuckle draggers who devalue public education. One of my all time favorite business men was Ken Iverson and his motto was "You get things done with people" and he didn't give a shit what school you went to or what skill you proclamied to have. He only cared about team work and getting things done. He walked the talk to as he paid those who did handsomely.
Click to expand...

Yeah that is an excellent standard.

And I strongly question whether those who feel this way have really been responsible for hiring and firing. I hate it with a burning passion, I am someone who excels at sales, marketing, and networking. I suck at hiring and firing...at staffing. But i have learned what's out there, and believe me, we will pay a decent salary, plus benefits, to someone who has a damned work ethic, who cares, and who has a great personality for our customers. The woman I paid 20 an hour to for answering phones and taking supply orders had a hs diploma. Who gives a shit?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top