Teach Racial History In Schools?

BidenPresident said:
Okay.
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You don't know the history of any of that do you? I do. I've said it before, I'm a military historian so I picked up other subjects in that field as I went along.

It paints a completely different perspective on the relationship the various tribes had with European settlers and later with Americans after the United States was formed.

For example, the Apache had no established settlements within their range of travels. The tribe was a loose knit group of nomadic bandits and hunter-gatherers for all intents. The more agrarian tribes like the Tohono O'tham (aka Papago) and the like absolutely hated Apache and for good reason. Apache raids were costly both in loss of property and lives.
American settlers to the Southwest didn't like the Apache for the exact same reason and got the US to send in military troops to end their shit. In Mexico, the government did the exact same thing for the exact same reason.
The Apache bands, being highly mobile, were hard to pin down and usually fought when they were, very much because like any criminal group, they didn't want to be brought to justice.

The Apache were hardly peaceful or settled. They were bandits, horse thieves, and criminals. The Seminole were much the same way in Florida...

In the War of 1812, Tecumseh led the Great Lakes tribes and sided with the British against the US. When that war ended, the US took a good chunk of those tribe's land as a war prize. Too bad for Tecumseh for choosing the wrong side in a war. That's what happens when you lose.

Relations between European settlers and the tribes of North America are more nuanced than is taught today. We need an honest approach to this not that the Europeans slaughtered, enslaved, and raped them.

Now, the Spanish are another deal altogether. They did pretty much exactly that from Mexico to Chile and across the Caribbean.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Only morons think racism is an issue after 1970.
In fact, it wasn't from 1970 until 2008 and Obama. I could've sworn that would all be over 2 years after he was gone but yet here we are.
It doesn't drive any of my actions, I'll tell you that.
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Of course not, nor do we care.

Interesting how you've totally forgotten all the racist memes, comments, filth, and nastiness thrown at the Obamas by those of your tribe.

And you all wonder why POC seldom vote (R).
 
PoliTalker said:
The right seems to have a big problem with racism.

The Trump Party has made it perfectly clear they want to preserve white privilege. (Even though most of them don't want to admit it.)

CRT is nothing but a proxy battle over racism.

The Trump Party is very clear they do not want something called CRT taught in schools. Most of them don't even know what it is, or that it is not actually taught, but they know they don't want it. They have been told by Tucker Carlson that CRT means before you can have a discussion about racism, that you first have to admit: if you are white, then you are a racist.

That's their understanding of it, and that's all they need to know to know they don't want it.

They don't want to have to admit they are a racist because they don't feel like a racist.

OK, I'm good with that.

If you're not a racist then you should have no objection to teaching all about our racial history in public schools.

I'm sure there already is some teaching about racial history in schools. It's probably not enough, whatever they do. Mention it sometimes? Racial tension is a huge problem in America.

We have got to take definitive steps to address this issue.

It's cross-generational. It's been going on for many generations.

We have to try to improve the situation. We need to teach our young people about the problem and talk about changing the way we think about this, maybe having some children try to approach it differently than their parents.

We need to teach our real racial history in schools and talk about how people should act differently than they do now. The next generation is the future. We can help shape that now.

Should American schools teach about our real racial history and how it has and does affect our country?
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shaming white children, segregating students, and telling black children they'll always be victims without anti white policy has no place in modernity. fuck you and your crt.

america says no. accept it.
 
Hello Jack,

Jack said:
Poli: "We need to teach our young people about the problem and talk about changing the way we think about this, maybe having some children try to approach it differently than their parents."
Jack: You seem to be saying you want children taught about past grievances so they can have a reason to be hateful.

NOT productive in my opinion.
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Why you continually attempt to flip the meaning that way?

The idea is to become aware of the problem so that the situation can be improved.

Obviously, not talking about it is not working.

Question, Jack: Do you agree with the following statement: 'Racial tension is a huge problem in America.'

If so, do you have any ideas on how to try to solve it or at least improve it.

That is the entire reason for the thread. Trying to solve or improve our racial tensions in America.

Doing nothing is not helping.
 
Hello Jack,

Jack said:
I don't think anybody has 'ignored racism'. We have tried to rectify it in the last 50 years. 'Equality' is the goal. Have we reached that?
'Something has to be done' ... agree, I support a unifying agenda of 'Brotherhood'. Teaching school children how their ancestors got fucked over by another ethnic group doesn't accomplish that Goal. It only teaches a reason for hatred. A basic roadmap to end up like Yugoslavia.
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Sounds like you want to mask our history.

I don't think it's possible to teach our racial history without teaching that one group was treated badly by another group.

We have to first be honest about our past, and then we can envision and enact a better future. Positive change.

Improvement through learning.
 
Hello Jack,

Jack said:
CRT, in my opinion, is for people who have reached a level of maturity that they can 'tease out' any ongoing racial disparities in our Society today. 'Children' don't have that capability.
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I am not advocating for teaching CRT.

I said to simply teach about our history.

We have to be honest with ourselves. Burying something like this will never work out well.

Honesty is the best policy.
 
Hello ThatOwlWoman,

ThatOwlWoman said:
Pfft. Only white ppl believe that racism isn't still a thing in the U.S.
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Every black parent who has to have 'the talk' with a child knows that all too well.

We need to try to get to a culture where 'the talk' does not need to be had.
 
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