The no trolling, personal attacks, or political bluster, discussion.

MASON said:
N-E-S-T-L-E-S
Nestles makes the very best chocolate.
Mars really,love Snickers!
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You ever have these? I loved them as a kid.

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Yurt said:
Another insult. Calling me a trouble maker.

Not a word about Owl calling me stupid or buttyurt, but I'm a trouble maker.

All I am doing is asking you polite questions.

Do you believe calling someone stupid and then misusing their username from Yurt to buttyurt is NOT troublemaking?
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USfreedom put up the post, and still you act like I said nothing? You're the one who went after me, just for mentioning that you are free to post here, despite our history. I feel kind of stupid, for giving you the chance now. So you basically drop it, or find another discussion.
 
Hello Jade Dragon,

I have to admire your diligence to trying to get people to chill. I really do.

I completely disagree with the thought that it can be done, but the attempt is extremely admirable.

The problem is you can't change people. They have to want to change themselves.

Trolls get off on 'being tough,' and being 'able to take it.' Having no or a small Ignore List is thought to be a source of pride.

I read every page of this thread that wasn't blocked by my own very large Ignore List. It was good to see people trying to be civil, but it was also quite expected that some would not be able to do it.

I remain convinced my approach is best for me. I put it out there plainly and clearly. No second chances. That fact that no exceptions are ever made is what makes it work so effectively. And that also makes it easy to maintain. It hurts sometimes to excommunicate somebody, but making examples out of people turns them into my best advocates. Any grumblings about my intolerance only serve to let others know I am not bluffing and I mean exactly what I say. The result is that people know they have to straighten up when they address me or I will simply stop responding to them permanently. The ones I am left with are all quite sincere. And that's all I sought.

People also know that they can 'drop their guard' with me, that I am not going to attack them. I only attack ideas.

I know that many just want to unload their frustrations with the other side. Not me. I am here to learn and discuss.
 
Jack said:
I wasn't 'starting anything'.
JPF said she likes chocolates. Then, I said I like these Vagina Cupcakes (even though I hadn't tried any yet, but they looked yummy), and then USF stated he liked chocolate milk.
Now, previously, on another thread, USF said he had 7 tattoos, ... and was going to get MORE tattoos in the future. I was, well, I was a bit shocked that this heavily tattooed person would be drinking a 'Chocolate Milk' rather than straight Tequila or a 100 proof Rum. It was just a knee-jerk response to this that I replied with a 'face-palm'.

Why are you picking on me?
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Just to continue the conversation exchange:

1 - Why would I not like Chocolate or Strawberry milk?
2 - I was never aware that 7 tattoos were regarded as "heavily tattooed". Could you explain how you made such a conclusion?
 
Yurt said:
Another insult. Calling me a trouble maker.

Not a word about Owl calling me stupid or buttyurt, but I'm a trouble maker.

All I am doing is asking you polite questions.

Do you believe calling someone stupid and then misusing their username from Yurt to buttyurt is NOT troublemaking?
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That is a very good question and I'm hoping that Jade will politely ask for you to be apologized to. :good4u:
 
Jade Dragon said:
USfreedom put up the post, and still you act like I said nothing? You're the one who went after me, just for mentioning that you are free to post here, despite our history. I feel kind of stupid, for giving you the chance now. So you basically drop it, or find another discussion.
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In defense of Yurt, you might want to look at the posts that I cut and pasted; because it does appear that he was commenting on posts that had been made PRIOR to your announcement.

Just to fair and honest.
 
Jade Dragon said:
Don't be silly, no one gets apologies. That's beyond the scope of rules, and not something anyone can do. Otherwise I'd be expecting a few.
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If people are being honest and wanting to be seen as following the rules you desire,;why would asking for someone to apologize, be beyond the scope of rules, and not something anyone can do?

Are you saying that if you violated your own rules, that you wouldn't apologize??
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
In defense of Yurt, you might want to look at the posts that I cut and pasted; because it does appear that he was commenting on posts that had been made PRIOR to your announcement.

Just to fair and honest.
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I know what happened. Jack was complaining about you, and I said that I'm giving Yurt a chance, so he can let you have a chance. Yurt thought I was attacking him, and Owl came in saying how ridiculous that is. There was a bit of back, and forth with Christiefan, about Yurt always calling me a girl. Then you, and Yurt were posting about all the stuff being in violation. I came in with my alerts, and got in a little bit of an argument with, Mason.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
That seems to be a very rude way of addressing other posters. :palm:
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You are certainly welcome to post your opinion!

But, so far, I see nothing being positively accomplished by this forum.

Further more, this forum seems to be just a breeding ground for negativity, hatefulness, ignorance, political bloody sport, and bad behavior.

If you really cared about this forum, or you even had pride in your own political beliefs, you would set a better example yourself dude!
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
If people are being honest and wanting to be seen as following the rules you desire,;why would asking for someone to apologize, be beyond the scope of rules, and not something anyone can do?

Are you saying that if you violated your own rules, that you wouldn't apologize??
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If people were apologizing it would be a wide spread apology. Everyone that was involved would say sorry, and move on. That would be you, Yurt, Mason, Owls, maybe Christie. The only thing I care about is continuing the discussions, and stopping the nonsense. Expecting apologies in a place like this, is like expecting a foot massage, with your Olive Garden meal.
 
Adolf_Twitler said:
You are certainly welcome to post your opinion!

But, so far, I see nothing being positively accomplished by this forum.

Further more, this forum seems to be just a breeding ground for negativity, hatefulness, ignorance, political bloody sport, and bad behavior.

If you really cared about this forum, or you even had pride in your own political beliefs, you would set a better example yourself dude!
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Please do try to save it for another discussion though. This is supposed to be a discussion of pleasantries. The forums condition, is why I make discussions like this.
 
I don't know what to make for lunch,I want steak,but eating light,for my stress test Thursday.
Might go with fish,the next two days.
Then get something good after the stress test Thursday.
 
Jade Dragon said:
I know what happened. Jack was complaining about you, and I said that I'm giving Yurt a chance, so he can let you have a chance. Yurt thought I was attacking him, and Owl came in saying how ridiculous that is. There was a bit of back, and forth with Christiefan, about Yurt always calling me a girl. Then you, and Yurt were posting about all the stuff being in violation. I came in with my alerts, and got in a little bit of an argument with, Mason.
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In my "opinion" though, you could have explained this all to Jack and left Yurt out of you comment(s); seeing as how he hadn't yet make a comment. that might have been needed to address.

And by this, the entire "conflict" could have been avoided.

Do you agree?
 
Adolf_Twitler said:
You are certainly welcome to post your opinion!

But, so far, I see nothing being positively accomplished by this forum.

Further more, this forum seems to be just a breeding ground for negativity, hatefulness, ignorance, political bloody sport, and bad behavior.

If you really cared about this forum, or you even had pride in your own political beliefs, you would set a better example yourself dude!
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But to make it succeed; posters need to honor Jade's request(s), with out following the leads of those who aren't.

Are you suggesting that I haven't agreed to comply with Jade's rules??
 
Jade Dragon said:
If people were apologizing it would be a wide spread apology. Everyone that was involved would say sorry, and move on. That would be you, Yurt, Mason, Owls, maybe Christie. The only thing I care about is continuing the discussions, and stopping the nonsense. Expecting apologies in a place like this, is like expecting a foot massage, with your Olive Garden meal.
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You don't seem to hold out much hope, for JPP posters; because of the post you just made.

If this is your belief, then it would seem fruitless to try and have such a thread; which would then beg the question of, "Why even try, if you don't expect people to do so"?
 
Jade Dragon said:
Please do try to save it for another discussion though. This is supposed to be a discussion of pleasantries. The forums condition, is why I make discussions like this.
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Not sure why you think I am the bad guy here!

After all, you started out this very discussion with these words- "Well since this forum is basically nothing".

I just added a little more personal opinion to your personal opinion about this forum by saying, "this forum seems to be just a breeding ground for negativity, hatefulness, ignorance, political bloody sport, and bad behavior".

That's OK! Your comment just reminded me, I have better and more positive things to do than to waste my time here all day!

Thanks!
 
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