Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

Gnostic Christian said:
It maters because without knowing who or what created gays, homophobes do not know who to blame and end in blaming the wrong party.

Does justice matter to you and is blaming the right party for something not the moral thing to do?

Regards
DL
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Blame for what?
 
Life is Golden said:
Nature.
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Nope.

In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls. Suggestions for future research were offered.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11501300/
 
Gnostic Christian said:
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
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Said the guy who started an OP discussing people -- gay people -- and trying to affix "blame" because they are not hetero. :rolleyes:

As is typical of your type, whenever someone responds with an opinion you don't agree with, you turn petty and indulge in silly insults. What you really want is not discussion, but an echo chamber.
 
Gnostic Christian said:
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Regards
DL
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Agreed. Insane minds, especially the schizos, think they are the center of the Universe and are spouting the True Word of God to the masses...usually weak minds with a victim mentality.

In my readings, one description of such a person is "Jesus Complex" AKA "Messiah Complex"*, a schizophrenic disorder. It's often associated with the Martyr Complex** AKA the suckers of schizos. These idiots follow psychos like David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite and Jim Jones then everyone dies. All of their psychotic pains go away just like their schizo leader promised. Life is funny. LOL

*https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8367574/
The messiah-complex in schizophrenia

**https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-a-martyr-complex
Martyr and Victim
The martyr complex is closely related to another behavior pattern called the victim complex or victim mentality. They share similar motives, conditions, and behavior.

The victim complex. At its core, the victim complex involves someone viewing themselves as a victim of their life events. They often express that bad things always happen to them, claim that they have no control over their life, and don’t take responsibility for things they do. The motives for a victim mentality are often unconscious.

The victim mentality provides people with a sense of safety and validation. As the victim, they don’t have to take the blame for their actions, they get attention from the people around them, and they are validated by support from others. However, by putting the responsibility on others, they sacrifice their own control and ability to act. They rely on others for their self-worth.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Said the guy who started an OP discussing people -- gay people -- and trying to affix "blame" because they are not hetero. :rolleyes:

As is typical of your type, whenever someone responds with an opinion you don't agree with, you turn petty and indulge in silly insults. What you really want is not discussion, but an echo chamber.
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Agreed. I think he's a schizo David Koresh wannabe without any followers. He's been around for at least 10+ years and always uses the same Kaa avatar. Tell me there's nothing Freudian there. LOL

Kaa is the secondary antagonist of Disney's 1967 animated feature film The Jungle Book. He is an enormous snake with an equally large appetite—specifically for Mowgli the man cub. Kaa's most dangerous attributes are his hypnotic eyes, which he uses to manipulate unsuspecting prey and lure them into his jaws.

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Gnostic Christian said:
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

Regards
DL
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Ahh, but do not ideas come from people? Do people not make up/cause "events"? And have not "great minds" throughout history been part of both? And before their ideas were considered "great", were they not just "people"?
 
Legion said:
Originally Posted by Touchyliberal View Post
Why not just do a survey or study of children of or raised by gay parents regarding nurture or nature?
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Because people lie.
That's why "surveys" and polls are worthless.

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Yes, people are born gay...
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Prove it.

Of course, I'll understand if you can't.
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1. If what you say is true (or you truly believe it to be) then NO Poll, survey or questionnaire result is valid. This effects EVERYTHING, especially politics. So according to your "logic", there is no way to determine anything in society, much less convey certain information.

2. Well, depending upon how old you are you might have noticed the decades of newspaper, magazine, radio and TV coverage of gay folk who were raised by staunch, died in the wool "straight parents"...their entire young life going through a staunch, died in the wool straight life style (dress, sports, high school sports, prom, etc.), yet being miserable because they felt "different". The documented trauma of "coming out" to said parents, friends, community. Other than being willfully ignorant, genuinely ignorant or just asleep, I don't how you missed all this. But of course, given your previously displayed mindset, everyone was lying. :rolleyes:
 
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Touchyliberal said:
If what you say is true (or you truly believe it to be) then NO Poll, survey or questionnaire result is valid. This effects EVERYTHING, especially politics. So according to your "logic", there is no way to determine anything in society, much less convey certain information.
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Butch Uncle said:
Polls and surveys can be valid as long as they come from reputable sources which use reputable techniques.
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Touchyliberal said:
Well, depending upon how old you are you might have noticed the decades of newspaper, magazine, radio and TV coverage of gay folk who were raised by staunch, died in the wool "straight parents"...their entire young life going through a staunch, died in the wool straight life style (dress, sports, high school sports, prom, etc.), yet being miserable because they felt "different". The documented trauma of "coming out" to said parents, friends, community.
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They could be lying.

The Chronology of the Posts™ has blasted your pathetic points into atoms of absurdity.
 
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