Democratic Peace Theory

goat said:
WWI in Europe is how I see the endless war for power. WWII was funded by western banksters. Peace will never be an option until we kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
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Let’s see.

You’re wrong on WWII, since it wasn’t a war between democracies.
There were many underlying reasons for WWI, but it was not a war between democracies.

Oh for two. So much for your list.
 
IBDaMann said:
Your question involves a "no true Scotsman" fallacy. Remove the word "major."

I suppose you missed Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

You might not have been around when Iraq invaded Kuwait.

The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is frequently beligerent, sending missiles over Japan and firing munitions into South Korea.

Saudi Arabia attacked Yemen in 2015.

Pakistan invaded Kashmir.

Did you need more?

Prediction: I bet you're going to complain that the aforementioned countries aren't democracies because you don't know what democracies are.
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So far, I’m looking for any. Other than the Pakistan/Kashmir thing, you’ve provided none.
 
Hermes Thoth said:
basically all nations have elections now. how many legal parties are allowed, or how many ways elections are corrupt is a big variable.

your lawfare "democracy" is belligerent as fuck.

in fact you blather about democracy, just as fuel for your war machine conquests.

to the OP, peace causes democracy.

you have it back asswards war machine fucktoid anal spray.
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As usual, you offer nothing. At least, you’re consistent.
 
domer76 said:
“All nations have elections now”. That’s makes Russia, with Putin winning his “election”, a democracy now.

LOL

What a fucking clown.
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You think biden's election makes us one.....what's good for the goose.......

and you're trying to put the opposition candidate in jail with multiple bad faith lawsuits.

you're disgusting.

you're as democratic as Putin.
 
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Hermes Thoth said:
You think biden's election makes us one.....what's good for the goose.......

and you're trying to put the opposition candidate in jail with multiple bad faith lawsuits.

you're disgusting.
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Yeah, Biden’s election was free and fair. Despite what you brain dead Trumpers try to tell yourselves.

It was the most audited, investigated, counted, recounted, court challenged election in history. And it passed muster IN EVERY FUCKING INSTANCE.

The cases against Trump are legitimate across the board. Not one of them has been dismissed outright, unlike his 60+ suits challenging the 2020 election.

Trump has already lost EVERY civil case brought against him, including the one where he was found to have committed sexual assault. Fraud. Slander. Sadly, you’re still in denial, despite all evidence to the contrary.

And you have the balls to call me disgusting. Priceless!
 
domer76 said:
Yeah, Biden’s election was free and fair.
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that's what Putin says about his election too.....

Time said:
The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election


https://time.com/magazine/us/5936018/february-15th-2021-vol-197-no-5-u-s/



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In a way, Trump was right.


There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain–inspired by the summer’s massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protests–in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.

The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President...
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by cheating.
 
Hermes Thoth said:
that's what Putin says about his election too.....




by cheating.
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Yeah, how many audits, counts, recounts, investigations and court challenges did Putin have? That’s right.

ZERO

Glad that coalition was successful in ensuring that it indeed was free and fair, in spite of an autocratically inclined President, aren’t you?
 
domer76 said:
Yeah, how many audits, counts, recounts, investigations and court challenges did Putin have? That’s right.

ZERO

Glad that coalition was successful in ensuring that it indeed was free and fair, in spite of an autocratically inclined President, aren’t you?
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they cheated. they changed laws unconstitutionally.

the whole election is invalid.

a rubber stamp from judges who didn't actually investigate means nothing, in reality.

Putin could probably find you a judge to rubber stamp his election too.
 
Hermes Thoth said:
they cheated. they changed laws unconstitutionally.

the whole election is invalid.

a rubber stamp from judges who didn't actually investigate means nothing, in reality.

Putin could probably find you a judge to rubber stamp his election too.
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Wrong again, whiney bitch. Stupid bitch. Conspiratorial bitch.

At least you’re consistent.

Bitch
 
goat said:
Is the US a democracy?
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No. The US was never a democracy. It was organized as a federated republic. Each State is a republic, and the federal government is also a republic.

A republic is government by law (in other words, a constitution). That constitution defines each of the representatives, what power and authority they have, their term of office and it's jurisdiction, and the procedure for how they are each elected.

A constitution may only be modified by the owners of that document. For the federal constitution that means the States. For each of the State constitutions, that means the people of that State. A constitution may not be modifiable by the entity that the constitution creates (or it's not a constitution).

Some offices in the U.S., such as a Representative in the House, are elected by popular vote of the people in that district. That is specified in the Constitution. That does NOT make it a democracy. That constitution creates that office, the power and authority it has, it's length of term, and the method of electing that representative.

Democracies have no representatives and no constitution. Everything is by popular vote.
 
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IBDaMann said:
Did you need more?

Prediction: I bet you're going to complain that the aforementioned countries aren't democracies because you don't know what democracies are.
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domer76 said:
So far, I’m looking for any. Other than the Pakistan/Kashmir thing, you’ve provided none.
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Well, we know what your problem is. You need to hit the books and do some studying.

Have a great weekend.
 
domer76 said:
I’m trying to recall the last major conflict between two democracies. I’m sure you have a long list. Go ahead and provide it.
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Can't recall of any at all. Democracies are self destructive. They basically don't last long enough for another democracy to war with them.
 
goat said:
WWI in Europe is how I see the endless war for power. WWII was funded by western banksters. Peace will never be an option until we kill the goose that laid the golden egg.
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Learn your history.

WW1 did not end in a victory. It ended in an armistice (they basically got tired of fighting and went home).

That armistice was negotiated in Versailles. The disaster of the Versailles treaty placed an unpayable burden on Germany, allowing Hitler to rise to power.

Hitler funded his exploits by stealing the gold from the conquered nations to fund the next nation. His first exploit he funded with gold stolen from German citizens he considered 'impure' and by violating the terms laid out in the treaty of Versailles. By the time France was occupied, Hitler had basically run short on money, since he was spending it on conflicts all over Europe and in Africa. This is why the Nazi army was stuck in France with little to do but boast about their superiority and have a picnic to pass the time. They did not have the resources to cross the channel and invade England. They could harass her, and they did, but they could not invade her. This set the stage for the eventual buildup and deployment that became known as D-Day.

In other words, WW2 was caused by the treaty of Versailles. It could be properly called a resolution of WW1, rather than a separate war. Again, Germany started the war. Again, she was defeated.

The allies paid for their side of the war through their own treasuries and taxes.

The horrors of WW2 are well documented.

One of the aftereffects of WW2, which is still with us today, is the abandonment of gold and silver as a currency (by theft in most cases) and the implementation of fiat currencies. This happened to all of the Allied nations AND to Germany, since the cost of WW2 caused their governments to go broke. It happened to Japan and Russia as well.

The cost of war is high, and not just loss of lives and property destruction. Those weapons and armies are expensive, and war aims to be destructive to both.

There really is only one basic cause of war: theft. Even wars based on religious conflicts are about theft. Tyranny itself is based on theft.


The way to peace is a simple one: profit and capitalism.

People don't attack their customers.
 
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