It's not just lack of God in schools

This wasn't about a lack of God, it was about a lack of protection for our kids. We spend billions protecting dirtbags and slime that we call politicians, but almost nothing protecting kids we call a national treasure. Nobody's worn knees on their pants would stop some insane fricker from doing something like this. One armed dude on the side of the kids could have.

Like I said. Would you rather have had in that room when Lanza came crashing through. Me with my Sig Saur standing by the door ready to plant one in his temple? Or the ever ferocious Desh wielding a desk?

I would bet that those parents burying their children this week would want to have me.
 
Like I said. Would you rather have had in that room when Lanza came crashing through. Me with my Sig Saur standing by the door ready to plant one in his temple? Or the ever ferocious Desh wielding a desk?

I would bet that those parents burying their children this week would want to have me.

Depends on what we have to give up to get you in that classroom. If it means continueing to allow insane people to have assault rifles id be agianst it, if it means we have to pay you after having passed a background check and a training class to be a school protector, Id be good with it.
 
does it happne every week like here?

Liar
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/ass...-are-not-on-the-rise-they-are-on-the-decline/
Associated Press Story: Believe It or Not Mass Killings Are Not on the Rise, They Are on the Decline

Posted on December 17, 2012 at 8:13am by Jonathon M. Seidl Jonathon M. Seidl


Story highlights:

While the perception in the wake of this year’s mass shootings has been that such acts are on the rise, the Associated Press found that it’s actually the exact opposite when you look at the data on a macro level.
“There is no pattern, there is no increase,” says criminologist James Allen Fox of Boston’s Northeastern University.
He adds that the random mass shootings that get the most media attention are the rarest.
While mass shootings rose between the 1960s and the 1990s, they actually dropped in the 2000s. And mass killings actually reached their peak in 1929, Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, says.
Chances of being killed in a mass shooting, he says, are probably no greater than being struck by lightning.



This is a piece by the Associated Press and Helen O’Neill.
Mass Killing Statistics Suggest Such Acts are Not on the Rise, But on the Decline | Sandy Hook Shooting

FILE – In this Aug. 7, 2012 file photo, people cover their heads at a candle light vigil in Oak Creek, Wis., for the victims of a mass shooting at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin this summer. Credit: AP

(AP) — A gold plaque hangs next to a bullet hole in the Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wis., where a lone gunman killed six worshippers and injured three others last August. It is engraved with the words, “We Are One.”

“It frames the wound,” says Pardeep Kaleka, son of former temple president Satwant Singh Kaleka, who died in the massacre. “The wound of our community, the wound of our family, the wound of our society.”

In the past week, that wound has been ripped open with shocking ferocity.

In what has become sickeningly familiar, gunmen opened fire on innocents in what should be the safest of places – first, at a shopping mall in Oregon, and then, unthinkably, at an elementary school in Connecticut.

Once again there were scenes of chaos as rescuers and media descended on the scene. Once again there were pictures of weeping survivors clutching one another, of candlelight vigils and teddy bears left as loving memorials. And once again a chorus of pundits debated gun control and violence as society attempted to make sense of the senseless.
Mass Killing Statistics Suggest Such Acts are Not on the Rise, But on the Decline | Sandy Hook Shooting

A photo provided by the Oakland POlice Department shows weapons taken off the streets in a buy-back program in Oakland and San Francisco, Calif., Saturday, Dec. 15, 2012. Credit: AP

“Are there any sanctuaries left?” Kaleka asked. “Is this a fact of life, one we have become content to live with? Can we no longer feel safe going Christmas shopping in a mall, or to temple, or to the movies? What kind of society have we become?”

As this year of the gun lurches to a close, leaving a bloody wake, we are left to wonder along with Kaleka: What is the meaning of all this?

Even before Portland and Newtown, we saw a former student kill seven people at Oikos University in Oakland, Calif. We saw gunmen in Seattle and Minneapolis each kill five people and then themselves. We saw the midnight premiere of “The Dark Knight Rises” at a theater in Aurora, Colo., devolve into a bloodbath, as 12 people died and 58 were wounded; 24-year-old James Holmes was arrested outside.

And yet those who study mass shootings say they are not becoming more common.

“There is no pattern, there is no increase,” says criminologist James Allen Fox of Boston’s Northeastern University, who has been studying the subject since the 1980s, spurred by a rash of mass shootings in post offices.

The random mass shootings that get the most media attention are the rarest, Fox says. Most people who die of bullet wounds knew the identity of their killer.
Mass Killing Statistics Suggest Such Acts are Not on the Rise, But on the Decline | Sandy Hook Shooting

FOXBORO, MA – DECEMBER 16: A New England Patriots fan shows support for the 26 victims of the mass shooting that took place at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut before the game against the San Francisco 49ers at Gillette Stadium on December 16, 2012 in Foxboro, Massachusetts. Credit: Getty Images

Society moves on, he says, because of our ability to distance ourselves from the horror of the day, and because people believe that these tragedies are “one of the unfortunate prices we pay for our freedoms.”

Grant Duwe, a criminologist with the Minnesota Department of Corrections who has written a history of mass murders in America, said that while mass shootings rose between the 1960s and the 1990s, they actually dropped in the 2000s. And mass killings actually reached their peak in 1929, according to his data. He estimates that there were 32 in the 1980s, 42 in the 1990s and 26 in the first decade of the century.

Chances of being killed in a mass shooting, he says, are probably no greater than being struck by lightning.

Still, he understands the public perception – and extensive media coverage – when mass shootings occur in places like malls and schools. “There is this feeling that could have been me. It makes it so much more frightening.”

On one spring day more than four years ago, it WAS Colin Goddard.

For two years after a gunman pumped four bullets into him in a classroom at Virginia Tech, Goddard said he couldn’t bear to listen to television reports about other shootings, or read about them. It brought him back instantly to that day – April 16, 2007 – when he lay on the floor of classroom 211, blood dripping from his shoulder and leg as he wondered if he would survive.

And then, on April 3, 2009, he turned on the computer and heard the news. A 41-year-old man had opened fire at an immigrant community center in Binghamton, N.Y., killing 11 immigrants and two workers. The shooter, a Vietnamese immigrant and a former student at the center, killed himself as police rushed to the scene.

Goddard watched, riveted, realizing that this is what it was like for the rest of the world when a mass shooting occurs. Inside the school, or the mall, or the theater, the victims lie wounded and terrified and dying, while the rest of the world watches from afar. People glue themselves to the television for a day. They soak in the horror from the safety of their office or home. They feel awful for a while. Then they move on with their lives. They grow numb.

Duwe says the cycle has gone on for generations.
Mass Killing Statistics Suggest Such Acts are Not on the Rise, But on the Decline | Sandy Hook Shooting

NEWTOWN, CT – DECEMBER 14: Responders gather at the scene of a mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School with police tape surrounding a vehicle on December 14, 2012 in Newtown, Connecticut. Twenty-seven are dead, including 20 children, after a gunman identified as Adam Lanza in news reports, opened fire in the school. Lanza also reportedly died at the scene.Credit: Getty Images



“Mass shootings provoke instant debates about violence and guns and mental health and that’s been the case since Charles Whitman climbed the tower at the University of Texas in 1966,” he said, referring to the engineering student and former Marine who killed 13 people and an unborn child and wounded 32 others in a shooting rampage on campus. “It becomes mind-numbingly repetitive.”

“Rampage violence seems to lead to repeated cycles of anguish, investigation, recrimination, and heated debate, with little real progress in prevention,” wrote John Harris, clinical assistant professor of medicine in the College of Medicine at the University of Arizona, in the June issue of American Journal of Public Health. “These types of events can lead to despair about their inevitability and unpredictability.”

And there is despair and frustration, even among those who have set out to stop mass killings.

“We do just seem to slog along, from one tragedy to the next,” Tom Mauser said last July, after the Aurora shootings.

Mauser knows all about the slog. He became an outspoken activist against such violence after his 15-year-old son, Daniel, was slain along with 12 other at Columbine High School in 1999. But he has grown frustrated and weary.

“There was a time when I felt a certain guilt,” said Mauser. “I’d ask, `Why can’t I do more about this? Why haven’t I dedicated myself more to it?’ But I’ll be damned if I’m going to put it all on my shoulders.

“This,” he said, “is all of our problem.”

Carolyn McCarthy enlisted in the cause in 1993, when a deranged gunman killed her husband and seriously injured her son in shooting rampage. She has served in Congress since 1997.

Known as the “gun lady” on Capitol Hill for her fierce championship of gun control laws, McCarthy says she nearly gave up her “lonely crusade” after hearing about the Virginia Tech shooting. And when she heard about the January 2011 shooting of former U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords she says, “I just sat there frozen and watching the television and couldn’t stop crying.”

“It’s like a cancer in our society,” she says. “And if we keep doing nothing to stop it, it’s only going to spread.”

After the Binghamton shootings, Colin Goddard resolved that he had to get involved, to somehow try to stop the cycle. Reminders are lodged inside him: three bullets, a legacy of Virginia Tech.

He now works in Washington for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

“I refuse to believe this is something we have to accept as normal in this country,” he said. “There has to be a way to change the culture of violence in our society.”
 
It's sad that many calling themselves "Christian" are the ones sucking the god out of our society by injecting so much hate and intolerance. They follow con-men picking their pockets and brainwashing them to fear everything, using their own insecurities about sexuality and self-worth against them.
 
Hey retard, his mom failed and died for it, along with causing 28 other deaths, including her own child. Yes, caused. She provided the weapons and training.

You have no proof of her providing anything, you idiot.
If she failed to be able to commit her son, you can blame it on the liberals; who went to court and had it ruled that mentally ill people can't be forced to take their meds and they can't be committed, unless they are a danger to themselves or others.
 
The God Dixie belives in abandons schools if the Governmnet does not allow organized governmnet led prayer.
 
My Government has not banashed any true God from anywhere. By the very nature of being a God, you cannot be banished by a Government.

I belive in a universal, which is by its nature not the same as any God that is not a universal. My God includes any and all other Gods, invented by man or not.


You know...I never thought of it that way...until now.

From now on, anyone who tries to claim Liberals got God banned from schools is going to be reminded how stupid that statement is.

As powerful and tyrannical as some seem to think our Government is, it still isn't strong enough to tell God where he can and can't go.
 
The God Dixie belives in abandons schools if the Governmnet does not allow organized governmnet led prayer.

I have not made any argument for school prayer here.

This is the very FIRST paragraph of my OP:

I keep hearing people say the problem is, we have taken God out of the schools, that's why we have tragedies like CT. I can't agree with this, because it wouldn't have mattered if these children had been praying and reading bibles, the monster who killed them would have still done what he did. This wasn't about a lack of God in schools.

Where in that do you read me calling for school prayer?
 
I have not made any argument for school prayer here.

This is the very FIRST paragraph of my OP:

I keep hearing people say the problem is, we have taken God out of the schools, that's why we have tragedies like CT. I can't agree with this, because it wouldn't have mattered if these children had been praying and reading bibles, the monster who killed them would have still done what he did. This wasn't about a lack of God in schools.

Where in that do you read me calling for school prayer?

Your thread is titled.... "It's not just lack of God in schools"
 
"This was about a lack of God everywhere in society" - Dixie


Are school not a part of "everywhere"?
 
Ok, first for you non-firearms trained morons, a. 223 round is the standard NATO round. It was selected decades ago because its capacity for horrible wounds was so high. The bushmaster he carried is identical to the M-16 I carried in the Army. It shoots supersonic rounds that have the propensity to bounce around inside the human body doing horrible damages. No reason to ban it, but when you make fun of the round it shows you have no clue about weapons.

Second, God has not been removed from our schools. Children can pray alone or in groups, they can bring bibles to school and read them on tjeir own time. ALL the Supreme Court said is that school officials cannot lead children in prayer
 
I never said you called for school prayer. Thanks.

"The God Dixie belives in abandons schools if the Governmnet does not allow organized governmnet led prayer."
-Jughead (circa 15 minutes ago)

Again, Jughead lies. I guess he can't help himself, it comes as natural as his inability to learn how to spell.
 


"The God Dixie belives in abandons schools if the Governmnet does not allow organized governmnet led prayer."
-Jughead (circa 15 minutes ago)

Again, Jughead lies. I guess he can't help himself, it comes as natural as his inability to learn how to spell.


Thats not a call for school prayer....
 
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