Should the US become a democracy?

[anonymoose]

Sounds good to me. Can you actually point to the opposition?

Just Google voter ID laws. Blue Team is generally against, Red Team generally for. So it wasn't my imagination or limited to the idiots here.

I also googled "red team small penises" and found this:
New dating site launches for men with ‘dinky’ penises
https://nypost.com/2020/03/09/new-dating-site-launches-for-men-with-small-penises/

Really, nothing about Reds having generally small penises.

I suspect you have been lying to me Jack.

 

[Jack]

From the same article

"The number one target of this legislation is clearly Voter ID laws. Many states passed Voter ID laws during the Obama administration and they were subsequently challenged in the courts. If this law had been in place during the Obama years, Eric Holder or Lorretta Lynch would have had the power to stop states from passing those laws."

"Red Team" doesn't object to Voter ID laws...


Do you?

I support the idea of democracy and letting each person cast a Ballot. I'm not real sure Red Team is on board with that idea.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Just Google voter ID laws. Blue Team is generally against, Red Team generally for. So it wasn't my imagination or limited to the idiots here.

I also googled "red team small penises" and found this:
New dating site launches for men with ‘dinky’ penises
https://nypost.com/2020/03/09/new-dating-site-launches-for-men-with-small-penises/

Really, nothing about Reds having generally small penises.

I suspect you have been lying to me Jack.

You revealing your own deciets.

Voter ID is fine. The voter suppression comes in when Republicans want to institute it immediately and without government (taxpayer) cost meaning they want a backdoor Poll Tax.

Voting is a right and no citizen should be disenfranchised by any means.

 

[RB 60]

I support the idea of democracy and letting each person cast a Ballot. I'm not real sure Red Team is on board with that idea.

I support the idea of every AMERICAN being able to register and vote if they so choose.

Why did you avoid my question, Jack?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Remember when demalquedacrats claimed to believe in minority rights?

Good times

WTF are you babbling about, Don?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Here's the problem I have with pure Democracy: Big cities (New York, Los Angeles etc.) are filled with parasites who make living by pumping out more parasites.

Do you really want those people making decisions for our entire population??

Which is one reason I support Abortion. Do you support abortion, Bubba? Help cut down on those "parasites" you are complaining about?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Or an embedded chip that can be scanned at the polling station.
Could be. I don't understand how the mind of Red Team members work. They claim it's to prevent voter fraud. I think they lie.
I was only speculating how Blue Team folks think because I don't know. Maybe you can enlighten me. Why are Blues generally against voter ID's (at least here).

Blue Team is against voter suppression. Specifically suppression against voters most likely to vote Democrat. I doubt they give a shit about meth-shootin', daughter-fucking hillbillies with Trump flags on their 1980something pickup truck. The Red Team doesn't worry about the meth-head hillbilly vote since most have drivers licences for their trucks. It's the inner city folks who don't even know how to drive or the elderly whose licenses expired who would be adversely affected by Voter ID.

A reasonable solution would be both a timeline and taxpayer-funded ID program for those in lower income groups. The good news is that such a national ID program could be used to identify legal residents with a legal right to work and live in the US.

 

[Jack]

Just Google voter ID laws. Blue Team is generally against, Red Team generally for. So it wasn't my imagination or limited to the idiots here.

I also googled "red team small penises" and found this:
New dating site launches for men with ‘dinky’ penises
https://nypost.com/2020/03/09/new-dating-site-launches-for-men-with-small-penises/

Really, nothing about Reds having generally small penises.

I suspect you have been lying to me Jack.

I took your advice and this is what popped up:

"Voter ID laws deprive many voters of their right to vote, reduce participation, and stand in direct opposition to our country’s trend of including more Americans in the democratic process. Many Americans do not have one of the forms of identification states acceptable for voting. These voters are disproportionately low-income, racial and ethnic minorities, the elderly, and people with disabilities. Such voters more frequently have difficulty obtaining ID, because they cannot afford or cannot obtain the underlying documents that are a prerequisite to obtaining government-issued photo ID card."
https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet

Seems like there should be some way to make Voter ID easy and assessable to those that need it.

I also googled 'Earl, CountryBoy, and Legina' ... and yes, they all belonged to the 'Dinky Penis' web site. (just because it's a meme, doesn't mean it's true of ALL Red Team)

 

[Jack]

I support the idea of every AMERICAN being able to register and vote if they so choose.

Why did you avoid my question, Jack?

I don't think I did. (we both agree Primavera shouldn't vote in American elections)

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I support the idea of every AMERICAN being able to register and vote if they so choose.

Why did you avoid my question, Jack?

Are you supporting taxpayer-funded IDs for low income groups?

 

[gfm7175]

Yes. Of course. If Trump didn't win, it was because of a 'rigged election'.

Not necessarily, but in this case the election results are still indeterminate due to Demokkkrat election fraud.

 

[evince]

They covered it up well, though. Not even Barr could find any evidence.

But the cheating the Republican Party has done in elections for decades now is always pretty easy for courts to see


The republicans have cheated in elections and left a shit smear path for all to see every time they do it


The cold hard USA court documentation goes all the way to the SCOTUS


That is how they lose the peoples vote yet get have have the office anyway

 

[MAGA MAN]

No. But I would like to see a conservative party purged of the freaks that have been breeding in it for 30+ years, culminating with the Trump takeover.

A responsible conservative party is necessary for the system to work. Other countries manage it. Is that too much to hope for in America?

Non sequitur.

 

[Jack]

Not necessarily, but in this case the election results are still indeterminate due to Demokkkrat election fraud.

Stay off the Crack pipe, gfm.

 

[Nordberg]

Not necessarily, but in this case the election results are still indeterminate due to Demokkkrat election fraud.

No fraud. You are showing you watch far right-wing sources and think they are news. The Republicunts did their normal voter suppression and it was not enough to steal this one.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Not necessarily, but in this case the election results are still indeterminate due to Demokkkrat election fraud.

No fraud. You are showing you watch far right-wing sources and think they are news. The Republicunts did their normal voter suppression and it was no enough to steal this one.

When you talk like a wackadoodle such as INT/IBDa/gfm175, you look like a wackadoodle such as INT/IBDa/gfm175. Jus' sayin'

 

[Dutch Uncle]

No. But I would like to see a conservative party purged of the freaks that have been breeding in it for 30+ years, culminating with the Trump takeover.

A responsible conservative party is necessary for the system to work. Other countries manage it. Is that too much to hope for in America?

While true and agreed, that is something that can't be forced. It can only be cultured and grown.

 

[Into the Night]

We are constantly told by conservatives that the United States is a constitutional republic, not a democracy.

WRONG. The United States is a federated republic. It is not a democracy.
'Constitutional republic' is redundant. A republic is government by constitution. Democracies have no constitutions or representatives.

Strictly speaking that’s not true.

It is true, strictly speaking.

The popular vote decides every elected office at every level EXCEPT the Presidency.

WRONG. The Constitutions of this country determine how elections are conducted.

We are told the electoral college was dreamt up to persuade smaller states to accept the Constitution.

That's exactly what it does. It gives the smaller States a voice in selecting the President and Vice-President.

Otherwise - oh no! - a state such as Rhode Island would have been in danger of being overshadowed by the likes of Virginia or Pennsylvania.

Or Wyoming and most other States being overshadowed by the SOTC or New York.

More than two centuries later America is still saddled with this archaic deal, and it’s getting worse.

Presentism fallacy. It is not archaic, and neither is anything else in the Constitution. You are trying to destroy the Constitution.

Two out of the past six presidential elections were won by a candidate who lost the popular vote.

The President is not elected by popular vote.

We The People didn’t want George W Bush (the first time) or Donald J Trump (at all).

We the People do not vote for President. States legislatures do. See the Constitution of the United States.

Now, soon-to-be ex-President Trump is having a two-month sulk because he thinks he should have kept the job after losing both the popular vote AND the electoral college.

The President is not elected by popular vote. The electoral college has not yet voted. That takes place on Jan 6th, and must conform to the Constitution. Enough States have filed Contested that there is no required Majority of the electoral college. This then turns to the House, following the procedures outlined in the 12th amendment.

Time for a rethink when the system throws up freaks like that.

You don't get to destroy the Constitution and then say you support the Constitution.

 

[archives]

WRONG. The United States is a federated republic. It is not a democracy.
'Constitutional republic' is redundant. A republic is government by constitution. Democracies have no constitutions or representatives.

It is true, strictly speaking.

WRONG. The Constitutions of this country determine how elections are conducted.

That's exactly what it does. It gives the smaller States a voice in selecting the President and Vice-President.

Or Wyoming and most other States being overshadowed by the SOTC or New York.

Presentism fallacy. It is not archaic, and neither is anything else in the Constitution. You are trying to destroy the Constitution.

The President is not elected by popular vote.

We the People do not vote for President. States legislatures do. See the Constitution of the United States.

The President is not elected by popular vote. The electoral college has not yet voted. That takes place on Jan 6th, and must conform to the Constitution. Enough States have filed Contested that there is no required Majority of the electoral college. This then turns to the House, following the procedures outlined in the 12th amendment.

You don't get to destroy the Constitution and then say you support the Constitution.

Appears "birdman" is totally confused again, a Constitution, any Constitution, is the framework of the Government, democracy is the ideology upon which that Constitution, our Constitution, is based.
A republic is the system of government that allows a country to be democratic

Really not all that difficult

 

[Flash]

democracy is the ideology upon which that Constitution, our Constitution, is based.

Really not all that difficult

That is a surprise to James Madison who is the Father of the Constitution and specifically sought to prevent a democracy.